What NOT to do when pulled over

[doctor_vals]

Holy crap is that person a licensed driver? She should have followed law enforcements commands. I dunno why the cop shot but i feel that the driver put her family in that situation by not complying. At that point with the assault on a peace officer (driver and passenger) that is a feeing felon...

Refusing to follow an officers orders and having people assault a cop is not a good way to insure a happy ending.

As you can see at 0:50 - "peace officer" first assaulted that woman.
So, her son want to protect his mom.

When we finally agreed that police using deadly weapon in situations, when it is not necessary.
He able to call for backup and follow her until she finally stopped and at that point make arrest.
Instead, what we saw - that cop pointed gun on unarmed kids (they did not have even toy guns) than he smashed vehicle - his rage is so visible...
And finally somebody came and even do not know who in that car - start shooting.
And even he try to shoot tires - it is not excuse, because we all know when police in rage and shooting - bullets flying everywhere...

And before angry replay or sending pm's - just check statistics and admit - police used deadly option more and more often.
It is why 20 -30 y ago communication between LEO and people were more friendly than today, when anybody try to stand as far as possible from cop.

[Lu(ky]

All I got from this is a BLACK WOMEN not wanting to following the rules as everyone else over a $100 ticket that just because you sign doesn't mean you are guilty tell you go to court and fight it.

Now think what she just did to her 5 kids in the car showing them not to follow the rules and teaching her 5 kids to hate the police because they are white.

But yet everyone is talking about on how the police officer used his weapon instead.

[SactoDoug]

Said by the arm chair critic who was not there, and is not privy to all the information related to the situation....

Check.....

Even you had to admit that he may have violated one of his department's policy. Why would any LE agency have a policy against shooting out tires if it were not dangerous.

You don't have a leg to stand on.

[SVT-40]

Because as long as no one gets hurt, then reckless behavior is tolerable.

Said by the arm chair critic who was not there, and is not privy to all the information related to the situation....

Check.....

[SactoDoug]

Gee which "innocent bystanders" or any person for that matter were hit by any rounds???

That would be zero...So no one was shot....

As above, the officer said he was shooting at the tires to disable the vehicle...NOT at the persons in the vehicle.

So it's up to the department to decide if that act violated any department policy....

Because as long as no one gets hurt, then reckless behavior is tolerable.

[SVT-40]

Vehicle was driving away/officers not in imminent danger. Check
Didn't know what he was shooting at/what was down range of target. Check

How would a regular citizen get away with doing this? He wouldn't.

How would a "regular citizen" be put in a similar situation??? They wouldn't.....

So it's a flawed comparison....

"Regular citizens" don't make traffic stops...Check

"Regular citizens" don't engage in high speed pursuits.....Check.....

[SVT-40]

I'd also be pretty pissed too if that crazy lady got innocent children killed.

But none were...... So why even make the statement...

In fact it appears that none of the rounds even struck the body of the van, indicating as the officer said that he was shooting at the tires to disable the vehicle....

Fleeing from LE, even in a vehicle, is not justification for use of deadly force. Also, the use of deadly force is only allowed to stop the perpetrator. It is not a blank check to shoot innocent by-standers such as the children in the van.

Gee which "innocent bystanders" or any person for that matter were hit by any rounds???

That would be zero...So no one was shot....

As above, the officer said he was shooting at the tires to disable the vehicle...NOT at the persons in the vehicle.

So it's up to the department to decide if that act violated any department policy....

[Calgunner739]

I'd have to take a guess and say the officer(opening fire) just arrived to a chaotic scene with an officer having been attacked by multiple people probably wouldn't know anything about the contents of the vehicle other than two of the people inside may have just tried to kill a cop and are now speeding away. Mom should be in prison for endangering all those children, the officers, and every other person she endangered during the chase.

Vehicle was driving away/officers not in imminent danger. Check
Didn't know what he was shooting at/what was down range of target. Check

How would a regular citizen get away with doing this? He wouldn't.

[CK_32]

Yea I've seen that chick was stuuuuupppiiidddd......



Amazes me idiots like her lasted this long. I feel this was fully justified especially finding out he wasn't shooting the kids but at the tires.

[BakoJ]

I'm ok with all the officers' actions.

[SactoDoug]

Fleeing from LE, even in a vehicle, is not justification for use of deadly force. Also, the use of deadly force is only allowed to stop the perpetrator. It is not a blank check to shoot innocent by-standers such as the children in the van.

[Dee_Dub]

I'd be pretty pissed if that cop shot and killed INNOCENT kids.

no **** as would I, however Their *MOTHER* put them in the situation there for being responsible

[Dee_Dub]

It's clear some people here have no experience dealing with people from the ghetto. This is exactly how they behave all the time, and it's not over reaction by the cops in this case. We see this all the time in DC across the river.

Nailed it

[bob7122]

I'd have to take a guess and say the officer(opening fire) just arrived to a chaotic scene with an officer having been attacked by multiple people probably wouldn't know anything about the contents of the vehicle other than two of the people inside may have just tried to kill a cop and are now speeding away. Mom should be in prison for endangering all those children, the officers, and every other person she endangered during the chase.

You are 100% correct and that still doesn't justify the use of deadly force. Watch the video again.

yes it does, black male charging officer... officer arrives and just sees vehicle driving off AND/OR only knows what the radio says AND/OR just sees the part of the black male charging the officer and reacts accordingly.

it looks like he is shooting the tires too. but the one who is to blame for everything is the mother for being a dumb woman.

[DrScorpio]

I'd also be pretty pissed too if that crazy lady got innocent children killed.