Molle Adaptor for Blackhawk Serpa holsters? **** SOLVED ****

[glock_this]

Okay.. so my issue is that I am building a battle belt. I want to put a Blackhawk Serpa holster onto said battle belt. I already know about the BlackHawk STRIKE CQC Ambidextrous Platform as I have one. BUT the issues with that are:

1. It takes up 4 molle columns. I would like to find a system that uses 2 ideally. 4 is overkill and to much real estate on a belt. It essentially steals 2 otherwise needed columns, 1 to either side of the actual holster that only covers 2 columns.

2. Because that device uses 4 columns of molle, that is pretty darn wide and it is hard plastic and it turns out, I use a size small belt and so what happens is, that BlackHawk STRIKE CQC Ambidextrous Platform spanning 4 columns of molle is right on my hip curve. So that means it does not conform to the curve of my hip and wants to push the belt out straight across 4 columns in a place where the belt is wanting to curve. If I had a system that only needed 2 columns, I would be fine as 2 columns can conform to the curve of my hip whereas 4 cannot.

So my goal is to find a molle adaptor that A. spans only 2 molle columns and B. fits the same inverted triangle 3 hole pattern for the Blackhawk Serpa holsters.

I already looked into the Safariland MLS 16 system as it would have been perfect as it has an inverted 3 hole mount system and only uses 2 columns but according to a phone call to them, their 3 hole pattern does not lineup with the Blackhawk 3 hole pattern.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

See answer below

[mikenewgun87]

550 cord solves everything...

[roll2li]

I don't think a holster attachment point of two MOLLE lateral panels is feasible for holding a pistol.

Each panel loop is laterally 1" wide. So you're talking 2" of width to hang you boomstick on. While I have no doubt the stitching could hold it, that's quite a point load for comfort (even with polymer pistols). Even the cheapest belt slide holsters have more leather than that.

Also if you have the requirement in that you want the holster to contour with your hip, if you look at successful holster designs that feature that curve, usually the load points are located fore and aft of the pistol holster itself, which exceeds 2" of width.

Personally I would suggest you look at some of the Level 2 duty holsters with jacket slots. Most of those adaptors can be fitted over a duty/war belt regardless of MOLLE points.

[glock_this]

550 cord solves everything...

So does duct tape and zip ties, but I am going for something not so ghetto and that can be more quickly remove and moved to other locations should I want - like molle on a vest.

[glock_this]

I don't think a holster attachment point of two MOLLE lateral panels is feasible for holding a pistol.

Each panel loop is laterally 1" wide. So you're talking 2" of width to hang you boomstick on. While I have no doubt the stitching could hold it, that's quite a point load for comfort (even with polymer pistols). Even the cheapest belt slide holsters have more leather than that.

Also if you have the requirement in that you want the holster to contour with your hip, if you look at successful holster designs that feature that curve, usually the load points are located fore and aft of the pistol holster itself, which exceeds 2" of width.

Personally I would suggest you look at some of the Level 2 duty holsters with jacket slots. Most of those adaptors can be fitted over a duty/war belt regardless of MOLLE points.

2 is totally possible, fine IMHO, and exists. Other companies make them, just not one I can find to fit the hole pattern I need.

2 columns, and thus 4 up facing hooks to catch the molle, should be totally fine and secure.

I don't want the holster to "contour with my hip" - you misunderstood. If the adaptor only took 2 columns, contouring is not needed as it would sit on my hip proper. But because 4 are used, 2 times the space is needed and so it sits over my hip and given it is hard plastic, it does not bend. If I only needed 2 columns I could mount the holster in such a way it would not be over the curve of my hip. But since the only adaptor I can find needs 4 columns, it spans over my hip to much and is hard plastic to wants to push the material straight in a place where the belt is bending.

Maybe a photo would help?

[glock_this]

Photos to show how the rig, given where it fits on MY body, is an issue and how a 2 column molle adaptor would work better.

Front view of just how much 4 columns is and how 2 are kind of wasted (1 and 4).


top view showing the curve of the belt but how the adaptor plate wants to stay straight and thus, pulls on the belt. A 2 column adaptor would not pull out on those 1 and 4 slots. As it just so happens, on a size small belt, where I need to place the pistol is right on my hip curve and so a straight piece of plastic across 4 molle columns.... not confortable and stealing room I could use.

[glock_this]

Just got off the phone with Blackhawk and their bolt hole pattern is not a standard, it is unique to them (just like Safariland) and they know of and have no option for a 2 column molle adaptor that fits their bolt pattern.

I saw this on a website, surely not a matching bolt hole pattern, but heck, maybe i could mod it with my own holes. And it takes only 3 molle columns. Still I think 2 is ideal, but this is a little better.



Found another 2 columns adaptor. Of course, not matching hole patterns I bet, but I could maybe mod that.

[glock_this]

I decided to order the above kaydex 2 column model & see if I can mod it. I plan to see if by chance the holes in the adaptor lineup with the holes on the holster & if not my plan is to make an aluminum plate that matches at least 3 holes on the adaptor & than make holes in the plate that match the holster. I might even make them half moon shape so I can tilt the holster. I'm good at mods like this & confidence is high it will work perfect. I will post up photos of what I come up wirh.

[glock_this]

So it turns out, the guy I bought the 2 column molle adaptor from pointed me towards this G-code adaptor



There is one made specific for the Serpa line that than would allow me to attach my holster to the adaptor I bought AND have the side bonus of making a QD system.

So with the above RTI Serpa hanger adaptor I attach to all Serpa holsters I have, plus an RTI Wheel on a 2 column molle claw (see below)... I am set.

I get a QD system so I can switch holsters fast between drop leg, or battle belt, or vest or daily holster belt. And I save 2 molle columns on my battle belt by going from a bulky 4 column molle plate to one only needing 2.

[glock_this]

ANSWER

Using a mix of G-Code products, I solved my original issue of cutting down from 4 molle panels to 2 and got the bonus ability to have all of my holster have a QD function.

I ended up going all in and buying G-Code adaptors (GCA39 or GCA41) for all of my Serpa holsters.

I then ended up buying numerous RTI Wheels (GCA25) by G-Code and several mounting options. So, I bought an RTI wheel option for my drop leg (GCA42), one for my molle belt (GCA87) one for my battle belt (GCA30), one for my chest rig/vest (GCA42) and one for my every day basic pistol range belt (GCA37).

This way, I can QD any of my holsters from belt to hip to leg to chest or QD my 9mm Serpa holster and jump over to my 40cal Serpa holster, etc. A total universal system.

Oh, and BTW, Natchez was/is having a sale where all of this stuff is like 50% off! So I scored between eBay and Natchez and G Code.

Here is an example setup.

[omnitravis]

Nice, I might try something like that.

[glock_this]

Never what I really planned to do at this moment as I had a specific issue to solve, but I had always wanted to do and was going to use the Blackhawk QD kit system which is why I had that Blackhawk molle adaptor. But the more I saw that system in use; it is bulky, sticks out kind of far, requires more molle panels, and is fairly pricey. This system I used of G Code products; cleaner, faster, less bulk, quicker, WAY more modular options to select from and since that sale is going right now it is - way cheaper. My need here for my battle belt ended up forcing my hand and the timing ended up being right.