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  • Armando de la Guerra
    Banned
    • Aug 2013
    • 1018

    C&R Question

    I want to sell a Chinese 56 SKS and Yugo 59/66 SKS. If I can determine one or both are 50+ years old, does that make them exempt from FFL transfer?
  • #2
    Armando de la Guerra
    Banned
    • Aug 2013
    • 1018

    OOPS! Wrong forum. I should have put this in the C&R forum.

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    • #3
      SonofWWIIDI
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2011
      • 21583

      Within the same state, to a non prohibited person over the age of 18, I believe so. (Get a photocopy of their DL). If I'm wrong, someone else will chime in.

      If to a valid 003 FFL holder, yes.

      Again, must be at least 50 yrs old (the guns) and not require any kind of tax stamp.

      BTW, IANAL, and this is not legal advice, just my understanding of the current laws...which may be incorrect.

      Good luck!

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      • #4
        Armando de la Guerra
        Banned
        • Aug 2013
        • 1018

        I'm in Paso Robles, Central Calif. If I can make sure a FTF without FFL transfer is ok, I'll post it in For Sale.

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        • #5
          Mssr. Eleganté
          Blue Blaze Irregular
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 10401

          Production of the M59/66 started in 1967, so The oldest ones are only 46 years old.
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          • #6
            09rubicon
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2133

            If you read the booklet provided by the BATFE that list C&R firearms by make and serial number range you find there are many, produced is some cases all the way up through the 70's that may in fact be C&R. Specifically the Yugo SKS and a few others.

            If you want PM the Make, Manufacturer and the Serial number and I can cross refrence it in the BATFE book. If your not comfortable with that I am sure you can find it online somewhere.

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            • #7
              TRICKSTER
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 12438

              Originally posted by 09rubicon
              If you read the booklet provided by the BATFE that list C&R firearms by make and serial number range you find there are many, produced is some cases all the way up through the 70's that may in fact be C&R. Specifically the Yugo SKS and a few others.

              If you want PM the Make, Manufacturer and the Serial number and I can cross refrence it in the BATFE book. If your not comfortable with that I am sure you can find it online somewhere.
              All Yugo 59/66s in their original configuration are C&R, that is not the issue. The issue is, that under current CA law, it has to be C&R plus 50+ years old to avoid going through a FFL transfer. Yugo 59/66s are not 50+ years old period so they need to go through a FFL. Also the grenade launcher on the 59/66 must be removed or neutered to be CA legal.

              As far as the Chinese Type 56, unless it was part of this recent batch that was certified as C&R, I would go through a FFL. There is info here about dating these rifles that seem to match up with what was seen with the recently released ones.
              Last edited by TRICKSTER; 11-04-2013, 2:35 PM.


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              • #8
                09rubicon
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 2133

                Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                All Yugo 59/66s in their original configuration are C&R, that is not the issue. The issue is, that under current CA law, it has to be C&R plus 50+ years old to avoid going through a FFL transfer. Yugo 59/66s are not 50+ years old period so they need to go through a FFL. Also the grenade launcher on the 59/66 must be removed or neutered to be CA legal.
                I had to remove the launcher off of mine too, then again I bought mine out of state, never sold one in state. Thanks for the correction, I was sure it read 50yrs "or" defined as C&R by the BATFE.

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                • #9
                  Armando de la Guerra
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1018

                  The Yugo is CA legal. It has a muzzle brake welded over the grenade launcher and a fixed mag.

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                  • #10
                    Kelster1574
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1053

                    I picked up a M44 a couple weeks ago at a gun show and was able to walk out with it.....they had 2-3 SKS's that were C&R's.......I was told 50 years old and private party to private party your good
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