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  • mag360
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 5198

    airsoft gun for concealed carry training?

    Looking for a method to train drawing and quickly firing at home, what do you guys think of airsoft guns that are exact replica's of your carry gun?

    Example http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol..._Marui_G26.htm

    is that a good one to get? the reviews show that they can hit a target pretty accurately from up to 7 yards away.
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  • #2
    TheExiled
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2933

    Im for it, its good, cheap and safe practice. Hell, I may or may not have been scattering the rabbits from my backyard all evening with an Airsoft Sig 552
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    • #3
      Whatisthis?
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1820

      To me, there's a downside to any choice besides live fire practice.

      Airsoft: You get to draw and practice quick fire but with a trigger and reset thats not the same. (Weight distribution and recoil are different as well)

      Dry firing Glock 26: You get to draw and fire with the true trigger... but you can only take the first shot.

      IMO, I choose to train on the actual gun. I draw and dry fire the first shot. Rack slide, into holster, repeat. It's not quick fire, but I need the actual recoil to accurately train for quick fire.

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      • #4
        diverwcw
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2693

        I think it's a great idea. The safety feature of practice with an airsoft gun overshadows the weight, trigger press, etc of a real gun.

        I dry practice with a red gun all the time.
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        • #5
          SDM44
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 3894

          I prefer a real unloaded gun mainly due to the weight & feel, when practing concealed draws.

          By the time you find & buy a metal airsoft pistol that almost exactly resembles your handgun with weight, size, and ergonomics/controls, you may have spent nearly as much as the handgun itself. IMO, airsoft guns are only good for target acquisition training, or doing some force on force training.

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          • #6
            negolien
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 4829

            Stupid idea sorry.
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            • #7
              Bandsecurity
              Member
              • May 2011
              • 199

              I do this all of the time an M&P airsoft that is the same size, weight, dimensions as my 9c. It is a great training tool for clearing a cover garment, establishing a master grip, aligning sights on target and getting a first shot off. The recoil is not the same however the trigger is not far off a production M&P. I dont think there are a ton of benefits when you are practicing multiple shots. Maybe a two shot limit. I would argue that those that say there is no benefit have not tried it. Many trainers use it for force on force training. The costs are low - $150 for a gun, gas and bb's. You can train in your garage. Is the same as training with real deal? No, but is a great option when you cant go to the range due to weather, ammo shortages or lack of time. Most indoor ranges in Nor Cal will not let draw.
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              • #8
                redcliff
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2008
                • 5676

                Originally posted by Bandsecurity
                I do this all of the time an M&P airsoft that is the same size, weight, dimensions as my 9c. It is a great training tool for clearing a cover garment, establishing a master grip, aligning sights on target and getting a first shot off. The recoil is not the same however the trigger is not far off a production M&P. I dont think there are a ton of benefits when you are practicing multiple shots. Maybe a two shot limit. I would argue that those that say there is no benefit have not tried it. Many trainers use it for force on force training. The costs are low - $150 for a gun, gas and bb's. You can train in your garage. Is the same as training with real deal? No, but is a great option when you cant go to the range due to weather, ammo shortages or lack of time. Most indoor ranges in Nor Cal will not let draw.
                I agree with this post. Airsoft is being used by many competitors (including at least one Steel Challenge winner) and many trainers.
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                • #9
                  omgwtfbbq
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3445

                  Tokyo Marui makes gas blowback airsoft guns that have the same weight and ergos of the real firearm. Police academies regularly use high quality air soft replicas for training.

                  I have a TM Sig p226 and I've compared it to the real thing, which the exception of the trigger (which actually wasn't that different) it's pretty spot on in terms of weight and function.
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                  • #10
                    BanjoGunner
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 357

                    I use a KWA G19 airsoft to practice my presentation to first shot on target and it has significantly improved my time as measured with my G19. I highly recommend it. Also, Tokyo Marui airsoft pistols have a great reputation.
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                    • #11
                      jeg0777
                      Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 177

                      There are a lot of agencies that are using Airsoft for training because the companies are making numerous models that are 1:1 replicas of the real thing. The step up from Airsoft would be UTM's but if you are a civilian good luck getting those. Where I work is trying to get M9 replicas for training because they are so close to the real thing we can have students carry them safely instead of Red guns.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        you could get a SIRT laser pistol and get exact feedback of your impact.

                        Baboosh is doing a post-paid group buy on them right now, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=840743
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                        • #13
                          Xanatos
                          Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 363

                          But those things share a Glock grip angle.
                          Originally posted by JeremyS
                          And menstrual cramps? Seriously, you [nrakid88] have complained about more things here than I think I have ever seen in a single thread ...air quality, noise, discomfort from glasses, "feminine attributes," and "macho masculinity," and sexism (there's an ironic disconnect here somewhere), compassion, grammar, people "tearing you down," your more-sensitive-than-normal ears, people who you perceive to be recoil-sensitive, how you "FEEL", liberals........ are you for real???

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by Xanatos
                            But those things share a Glock grip angle.
                            since the OP was linking to airsoft glocks, I figured he was a Glock guy.
                            Jack



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                            • #15
                              Xanatos
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 363

                              Fair enough. My comment was mostly with regards to the more general topic title. That and I really want one of those SIRT training tools, but I refuse to buy one and then have to do a grip reduction on it.
                              Originally posted by JeremyS
                              And menstrual cramps? Seriously, you [nrakid88] have complained about more things here than I think I have ever seen in a single thread ...air quality, noise, discomfort from glasses, "feminine attributes," and "macho masculinity," and sexism (there's an ironic disconnect here somewhere), compassion, grammar, people "tearing you down," your more-sensitive-than-normal ears, people who you perceive to be recoil-sensitive, how you "FEEL", liberals........ are you for real???

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