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  • #16
    Mssr. Eleganté
    Blue Blaze Irregular
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    Originally posted by Mike's Custom
    Actually, a FFL doesn't have to charge the $10 but tha state allows the FFL to do so. FFLs are also allowed to charge $10 per long gun transfered on one DROS but again that is the FFLs choice. I charge $10 per long gun transferd due to the paperwork and copies of papers we have to keep on file and track as long as we are in business. Bottom line is the $10 fee is not maditory by the DOJ but is the limit FFLs may charge per firearm.
    Are you saying that you also charge the extra $10 when you transfer long guns from your own inventory? There is no $10 limit for that. If it's not a PPT then you can charge whatever you want in addition to the $25 in State mandated fees. You just have to make sure the amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.
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    • #17
      FortCourageArmory
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 1001

      Originally posted by Amendment II
      Are you saying that you also charge the extra $10 when you transfer long guns from your own inventory? There is no $10 limit for that. If it's not a PPT then you can charge whatever you want in addition to the $25 in State mandated fees. You just have to make sure the amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.
      I think Mike is saying he charges $10 for each long gun transfered under a PPT. I would do (and have done) the same. If the long gun comes out of his inventory, he may charge any amount of "dealer fee" he wishes as long as it's stated as a "dealer fee". Mike, I don't want to speak for you, but that's what it sounded like to me.
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      • #18
        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        Originally posted by Mike's Custom
        The answer is NO. The 4473 MUST be signed and dated at the time the state DROS is started. The 30 startes from the time the 4473 is signed and dated and the DROS waiting period and 30 days startes at transmission. So, they both have to start at the same time.
        Who said they weren't signed and dated at DROS start?

        So much of this is a gray area. For example, do you think Mike can provide a PC source or 4473 instructions that state the back ground check must be started when the document is signed and dated? I bet he says no only because an agent somewhere told him know. Where did the agent get his/her info? Who knows.

        Basically, it boils down to the dealer. If the dealer wants to risk a possible write up for it, then go for it. Basically it is the dealer's responsibility to make sure the transaction is completed as they have been instructed or within the law. As long as they run your DROS and you don't get denied, I don't think there is much they can do to you if your dealer "cuts a corner", even if they really are in the first place.

        Personally, I wouldn't do it. You could send me a check for now and wait until it arrives. I actually probably wouldn't even do that and would just find an alternate lower for you to get now and let you spend all the waiting time shooting. Hopefully you already have a couple rifles built up and this isn't your first. If it is, I would just recommend you get something and shoot it. The lower isn't that important (unless it is something exotic without alternatives).
        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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        • #19
          ohsmily
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2005
          • 8951

          Originally posted by The SoCal Gunner
          Some FFLs will do it if they can get the serial # of the lowers while most I know won't do it.
          You don't need the serial number for DROS of long guns, only handguns.
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