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  • ajaffe
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1502

    Heller Affirmed, bring on the state suits

    http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-cont...06/07-2901.pdf for a full read.
    Essentially they said that requiring registration for, keeping unloaded, and keeping a handgun locked was not feasible to use a handgun as home defense and took away our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. They went into depth and said that certain types of firearms are still restricted to NFA items, and from what I read did not really take a stance on CCW outside of the home. but they still affirmed what the District Court found, albeit more in depth.
  • #2
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    The NRA has stated that they will be filing suits against Chicago (and suburbs) and San Fransisco today.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      M1A Rifleman
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3691

      This statement that was made:

      the Court concluded “we find they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weaons in case of confrontation” — in other words, for self-defense. “The inherent right of self-defense has been central to the Second Amendment right,” it added.

      to me sounds like carry for self defense outside the home is a right without many restriction.
      The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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      • #4
        rivviepop
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 2528

        Originally posted by ke6guj
        The NRA has stated that they will be filing suits against Chicago (and suburbs) and San Fransisco today.
        Link? I just checked nra-ila.com and nra.com, I'm not seeing this anywhere. Was it in an email maybe?

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by rivviepop
          Link? I just checked nra-ila.com and nra.com, I'm not seeing this anywhere. Was it in an email maybe?
          Wayne LaPierre stated this on the steps of the supreme court today on TV.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            rivviepop
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 2528

            Originally posted by ke6guj
            Wayne LaPierre stated this on the steps of the supreme court today on TV.
            Cool, thanks - I'll keep an eye out for the press release, etc.

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            • #7
              Moonclip
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 4390

              I want to see major CCW reform 1st and "assault weapons" reform as well though I don't see that happening as easily. Class III reform is a nice dream as well. I want to see mag capacity restrictions challenged as well.
              .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
              7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
              9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
              .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
              .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
              20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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              • #8
                Danield
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2007
                • 1880

                Do we really need 40 different threads on Heller?

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                • #9
                  Soldier415
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 9537

                  Originally posted by Danield
                  Do we really need 40 different threads on Heller?
                  Just for that, I am going to go start my own...
                  Originally posted by harmoniums
                  Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
                  My gut is good for two things, making poo and spotting crazy
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  Do not get your legal advice from Forest Rangers or Sheriffs: that's like getting medical advice from your plumber.

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                  • #10
                    Fjold
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 22863

                    Originally posted by Danield
                    Do we really need 40 different threads on Heller?

                    Yes, I think that we should be allowed a little celebratory excess after all the years of fighting.
                    Frank

                    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                    • #11
                      ajaffe
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1502

                      Originally posted by Danield
                      Do we really need 40 different threads on Heller?
                      There were 2 others when I made this one. Only one had the decision in the first post and linked a poll of how you felt instead of the facts. I apologize for linking the ACTUAL judgment.



                      Not.



                      Here are the juicy parts:

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                      • #12
                        Librarian
                        Admin and Poltergeist
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 44640

                        Originally posted by rivviepop
                        Link? I just checked nra-ila.com and nra.com, I'm not seeing this anywhere. Was it in an email maybe?
                        Chicago case here: http://www.chicagoguncase.com/
                        BELLEVUE, WA – Following Thursday’s (5-4) ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects an individual civil right to keep and bear arms, and that a municipal gun ban violates that right, the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) filed a federal lawsuit (complaint) challenging the City of Chicago’s long-standing handgun ban.
                        Link to complaint at that page.

                        And they're flat arguing incorporation:
                        48. The Second Amendment right is incorporated as against the states and their
                        political subdivisions pursuant to the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
                        49. The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms is a privilege and immunity
                        of United States citizenship which, pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment, states and their political subdivisions may not violate.
                        Rock on, Mr. Gura!
                        Last edited by Librarian; 06-26-2008, 8:19 PM.
                        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                        • #13
                          dw33b
                          Member
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 428

                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          Chicago case here: http://www.chicagoguncase.com/
                          [...]
                          And they're flat arguing incorporation:
                          [...]
                          If they finally incorporate the 2nd amendment then ... man.. words cannot express how I am feeling.
                          And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
                          -Acts 2:44-45
                          And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
                          -Matthew 19:24

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                          • #14
                            metalhead357
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5546

                            Oh lordy- thank ya' God and infamous 9......Let the walls start being torn down
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                            I am not a number! I am a free man

                            1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                            2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                            3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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