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  • NSR500
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 19530

    FFL Business Question

  • #2
    FortCourageArmory
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 1001

    Not sure if I'm following your question correctly, but I'll give it a shot. If the dual state resident has CA ID or CA DL, they may transact gun business in CA.... i. e. buy firearms. They would obviously have to use their CA address on their paperwork.

    If you mean can a CA resident get an FFL in another state, the answer is yes. Can they then do gun business when in CA? Again, yes. If you are asking if they can sell in CA, then again the answer is yes. However, on that last point, they would have to transfer the firearm they sold to a CA FFL holder to transfer to their customer.

    If this mythic dual stater had an FFL in both states, they would be in an idea position....kind of like Cold War Shooter's with stores in Texas and CA. They can buy EBRs, have them shipped to Texas, make them CA compliant and then move them into CA and make a profit on the guns.

    Did any of those answer your questions?
    sigpicNRA Life Member
    Tim & the gang
    Fort Courage Armory
    1518-B Los Angeles Avenue
    Simi Valley, CA 93065
    (805) 526-6563
    www.fortcouragearmory.com

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    • #3
      NSR500
      Banned
      • Aug 2006
      • 19530

      Thank you FCA!

      You hit the nail on the head with a fairly clear and concise answer to what I sought.

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      • #4
        FortCourageArmory
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 1001

        OK, I gotta know....which was the answer you were looking for?
        sigpicNRA Life Member
        Tim & the gang
        Fort Courage Armory
        1518-B Los Angeles Avenue
        Simi Valley, CA 93065
        (805) 526-6563
        www.fortcouragearmory.com

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        • #5
          NSR500
          Banned
          • Aug 2006
          • 19530

          LOL!

          The answer I was looking for was answered by the 2nd and 3rd parts to your answer. I was thinking about possible additional revenue streams to help me to pay for Gas.

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          • #6
            EOD Guy
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1229

            An FFL from another state cannot deliver firearms while at a gun show in California. All they can do is take orders and ship the firearms from their licensed premises to a California FFL. The only exception is that they may deliver C&R firearms to an FFL holder while in California.

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            • #7
              tenpercentfirearms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2005
              • 13007

              Originally posted by EOD Guy
              An FFL from another state cannot deliver firearms while at a gun show in California. All they can do is take orders and ship the firearms from their licensed premises to a California FFL. The only exception is that they may deliver C&R firearms to an FFL holder while in California.
              Can you give me the section on that one? You very well might be correct, but I don't see why an out of state dealer couldn't give the firearms to the transfer dealer direct while at the gun show (not counting getting approval from the CFLC). If you post a law why, then that will be my answer.
              www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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              • #8
                PIRATE14
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3189

                Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                Can you give me the section on that one? You very well might be correct, but I don't see why an out of state dealer couldn't give the firearms to the transfer dealer direct while at the gun show (not counting getting approval from the CFLC). If you post a law why, then that will be my answer.
                It's written in the ATF regs.....
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                • #9
                  PIRATE14
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3189

                  Originally posted by NSR500
                  LOL!

                  The answer I was looking for was answered by the 2nd and 3rd parts to your answer. I was thinking about possible additional revenue streams to help me to pay for Gas.
                  While, it's possible.....there are a lot of issues that the ATF will want you to meet.....
                  CHECKOUT...http://cwstactical.com FOR ALL YOUR CALIFORNIA LEGAL AR-AK-HK RIFLES and BUILDS...

                  CWS....WE CAN GO HOT ANYTIME....

                  CALIFORNICATION AT IT'S BEST...

                  BRD....BLACK RIFLE DISEASE.......SPREAD IT!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    PIRATE14
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3189

                    [quote=FortCourageArmory;1306750]
                    If this mythic dual stater had an FFL in both states, they would be in an idea position....kind of like Cold War Shooter's with stores in Texas and CA. They can buy EBRs, have them shipped to Texas, make them CA compliant and then move them into CA and make a profit on the guns.

                    [quote]

                    One of my customers called me an ANGEL the other day......

                    Now.....I'm approaching UNICORN status......
                    CHECKOUT...http://cwstactical.com FOR ALL YOUR CALIFORNIA LEGAL AR-AK-HK RIFLES and BUILDS...

                    CWS....WE CAN GO HOT ANYTIME....

                    CALIFORNICATION AT IT'S BEST...

                    BRD....BLACK RIFLE DISEASE.......SPREAD IT!!!!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      EOD Guy
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1229

                      Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                      Can you give me the section on that one? You very well might be correct, but I don't see why an out of state dealer couldn't give the firearms to the transfer dealer direct while at the gun show (not counting getting approval from the CFLC). If you post a law why, then that will be my answer.
                      It is explained in ATF Revised Ruling 69-59. Here is a link. The ruling is on page 3 and can be misleading until you read the editor's note.

                      ATF Revised Ruling 69-59

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