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  • edwardfrench
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 30

    the next big thing, invented for CA is...

    What we need is an aggressive genius manufacturer (the gun version of Elon Musk) that can figure out a way to accelerate a .22lr to 4000fps in the same cartridge. This would open a new market for CA legal firearm manufacturing that can loophole rimfire laws and avoid bullet buttons. The .22lr is due for a technology overhaul. Imagine a whole new world of home defense carbine pistols with massive (yet to be invented) 7mm-9mm rimfire ammo legal to own in CA without a bullet button. The law makers will catch up, but they will ALWAYS be behind technology. Laws are SLOW to pass and whoever invents this will sell 1,000,000 units the first year, then it will eventually collapse and even out to a few thousand units a year.

    Before anyone says it can't be done because of technical limitations, I'm a molecular biologist and I can tell you scientists have done more in the last 5 years than they have in the last 50! The exponential increase of information technology has yet to crossover into small arms weaponry aside from the new Tracking Point Rifle Systems (similar tech will be available to the general hunter in 5 years for $1500-$2,000 from Nikon) how do I know this? Everything, everything that has information follows the Law of Accelerated Returns, this is why moore's law exists. Guns will be smart in 5 years and ammo ...will still be primitive? or will someone exploit this market and launch a whole new product.

    PS high fps ammo would destroy current made low pressure .22LR guns, they will not be compatible.
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    tonyxcom
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2011
    • 6397

    A time machine could fix a few things too.

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    • #3
      MrPlutonium
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 503

      Until they ban that too? I'm going to have to agree with Tony on this one. A time machine would probably have a longer lasting effect. Although an AR in .17WSM sounds like a lot of fun too.

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      • #4
        rdawg
        Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 214

        Yea they just ban it too. Be a huge waste of time putting in all the money and resources to develop that to just be banned also.

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        • #5
          jeffyhog
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2759

          I heard someone was working on a rimfire .223 to get around the law...

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          • #6
            Big D
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1070

            Doesn't have to be rim fire. Just can't be center fire.

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            • #7
              jdouglas
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1101

              Originally posted by Big D
              Doesn't have to be rim fire. Just can't be center fire.
              We just need someone to come up with a semi-auto version of the Heckler & Koch G11.
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              • #8
                Altahick
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 2170

                .17 win super mag in an ar would be cool
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                • #9
                  zhyla
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2017

                  Originally posted by Big D
                  Doesn't have to be rim fire. Just can't be center fire.
                  This is the ticket. Rimfire is limited to lower pressure rounds because the rim has to be soft enough to strike reliably. But you could probably build a case and primer that works like a centerfire cartridge but with different geometry. Maybe some kind of ring primer, etc.

                  But is this a good idea? The market is small and if it was distinguishable from a .22LR in any way it would get banned.

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                  • #10
                    E Michael
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 2513

                    Or we could vote better people into office.

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                    • #11
                      NOTABIKER
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7635

                      move

                      a better U haul to get out of dodge.

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                      • #12
                        defcon
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3006

                        i will be attempting to 3D print that design for a .22LR chassis either for a Marlin 795 or 10/22

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                        • #13
                          omgwtfbbq
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3445

                          I understand where the OP is going but there is somewhat of an assumption that .22lr is the only option for rimfire cartiridges. Before the invention of the centerfire cartridge there was a wide variety of rimfire cartridges available. The trick would be modifying firearms and ammunition to work together.
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                            1911su16b870
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 7654

                            IIRC the problem is the case pressure wrt the rim fire wall thickness. The 556 cartridge would consistently blow the wall of of the case if it was rimfired.
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                            • #15
                              UberPatriot
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 2069

                              Originally posted by Big D
                              Doesn't have to be rim fire. Just can't be center fire.
                              Hmmm off center fired?

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