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are there changes in for roster handguns ?

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  • bombadillo
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    • Nov 2007
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    And there you have it germz

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    • Max Power!
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      • Jun 2009
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      Last edited by Max Power!; 01-01-2014, 11:06 PM.

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      • Chaos47
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        • Apr 2010
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        Originally posted by Vlad 11
        That needs to become one of the official "smilies" on the forum!

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        • katranch
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          • Darto
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            • Apr 2012
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            We're sitting in here, and we're supposed to be learning information, and we in here talking about practice. I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not the law, not the law, we're talking about practice man. It's the Playoffs, man. Playoffs!? What are we talking about? Practice!

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            • sl0re10
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              • Jan 2013
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              Give Tere Hanges to me all again (wow)
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              • russt
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                • Feb 2012
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                Big tere hanges coming from ruger i hear!

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                • SelfGovernor
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  Originally posted by Chaos47
                  That needs to become one of the official "smilies" on the forum!
                  I'll sign that petition
                  ... that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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                  • Motogunner
                    Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 123

                    How do the py decide what goes on and off the roster. I'm sorry if it's a stupid question. Kind of a noob

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                    • JoshuaS
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                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1617

                      What is py?

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                      • Vlad 11
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                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2961

                        Originally posted by Motogunner
                        How do the py decide?
                        The py don't decide ... now go back and read thru this whole thread and you will find your answer



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                        • Motogunner
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                          • Jun 2013
                          • 123

                          Meant "they" it's the text input on the phone sorry. Was a serious question though

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                          • JoshuaS
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                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1617

                            Originally posted by Motogunner
                            Meant "they" it's the text input on the phone sorry. Was a serious question though
                            Handguns must be submitted to the DOJ for testing. Originally this meant a drop test. Over time, they added required features, while allowing guns already on the roster, but lacking them, to remain. E.g., in 2006 every (semiautomatic) gun not already on the roster had to have a loaded chamber indicator or mag disconnect to qualify. In 2007 they needed both. Then they added the requirement for mircostamping. The law said 2010, but also provided that it only took effect when the DOJ certified the technology was available. That happened last year. So any new semiautomatic would need that in order to be submitted.

                            There is a $200 fee, and you provide the handgun and ammo (I forget how much). After that, you merely have to pay the $200 per model a year to keep it on the list.

                            However, the DOJ is allowed to retest up to 5% a year and yank any that fail and/or had any changes made to it.

                            The law provides that new "models" may be added without testing, if they differ only in cosmetic features or the texture of the grip, provided the dimensions, etc are not change.

                            Single Action revolvers with a long enough barrel are exempt and do not have to be on the roster. Same with single shot pistols, as long as they have a long barrel (I forget the exact length). But all other revolvers, derringers and pistols must be rostered to be sold by a dealer.

                            So basically manufacturer submits, has the required features as of the time of submission, and pays a yearly fee to keep it there. Guns without required features remain, as long as the fee continues to be paid, but no new models can be added without said features

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                            • Motogunner
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                              • Jun 2013
                              • 123

                              Thanks for shedding some light on that for me Joshua. Much appreciated. What is micro stamping?

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                              • JDay
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19393

                                A technology that doesn't work that is supposed to stamp she'll casings with your serial number. Because, you know, criminals use handguns registered to them and would never use stolen firearms.

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