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  • #16
    mille806
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 826

    Originally posted by tonyxcom
    Oh, so you are only interested in opinions from people that like your idea?

    There are too many things wrong with it.

    First is locked box you have to open.
    1. First you have to pull your cover garment to expose the box
    2. then you have to enter your combination to open the box
    3. then you have to extract two parts and assemble them


    You gonna call time out after you feel your life is threatened?

    Then you need to hit the BG with a single 22LR round in a place that stops him. Highly unlikely with the micro gun you are suggesting building this for, and even if you had time to aim, well 22LR isn't know for its accuracy out of a 1 inch barrel, so you still aren't likely to hit his good night button.

    Other than those few things, GREAT IDEA!
    1. I wear my shirts tucked in it would be exposed at all times.

    2. You are right I would have to enter a combination I would like it suitcase style only one digit from popping open.

    3. You are making me rethink the type of firearm to develop this mini case for. maybe I can develop it for a Para warthog as it wouldn't be that hard to just insert a magaine.

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    • #17
      Citadelgrad87
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2007
      • 16935

      Originally posted by mille806
      1. I wear my shirts tucked in it would be exposed at all times.

      2. You are right I would have to enter a combination I would like it suitcase style only one digit from popping open.

      3. You are making me rethink the type of firearm to develop this mini case for. maybe I can develop it for a Para warthog as it wouldn't be that hard to just insert a magaine.
      That was my initial point, manual dexterity is going to be in the dumper if you NEED a firearm, last thing you want to do is try to thread a needle under pressure.
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      • #18
        tonyxcom
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2011
        • 6397

        Changing the weapon still doesn't fix the first half of the problem, but it certainly fixes the second half.

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        • #19
          mille806
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 826

          Thank you Tonyxcom and Citadelgrad87 for your input you guys got me really brainstorming.

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          • #20
            Bobby Ricigliano
            Mit Gott und Mauser
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2011
            • 17439

            Originally posted by tonyxcom
            Your "invention" is actually useless to me since I am carrying my Shield, loaded, and not in a locked box right now
            I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm impressed.

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            • #21
              Michael in California
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 690

              To expand on the idea, though I'll hopefully have my LTC in a couple of weeks, how about this?

              Why not have the gun/ammo self assemble as the weapon is extracted from the biometrically locked hip vault. It could be a two shot 45 cal derringer.

              If you could engineer it, it would be legal under existing law. It would probably take california a shorter time to ban it that it takes to tool up for mass production though.

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              • #22
                Gutz
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Jan 2013
                • 4127

                1A - 2A= -1A :(

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                • #23
                  Untamed1972
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 17579

                  Originally posted by tonyxcom
                  Oh, so you are only interested in opinions from people that like your idea?

                  There are too many things wrong with it.

                  First is locked box you have to open.
                  1. First you have to pull your cover garment to expose the box
                  2. then you have to enter your combination to open the box
                  3. then you have to extract two parts and assemble them


                  You gonna call time out after you feel your life is threatened?

                  Then you need to hit the BG with a single 22LR round in a place that stops him. Highly unlikely with the micro gun you are suggesting building this for, and even if you had time to aim, well 22LR isn't know for its accuracy out of a 1 inch barrel, so you still aren't likely to hit his good night button.

                  Other than those few things, GREAT IDEA!
                  Sounds doable
                  "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                  Quote for the day:
                  "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                  • #24
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44664

                    Interesting idea, but does not seem to work.

                    Out of vehicle carry is subject to destination limitations, unless one has LTC. See the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #25
                      calaveras
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 313

                      (g) A firearm shall be deemed to be loaded for the purposes of this section when there is an unexpended cartridge or shell, consisting of a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet or shot, in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm, including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm;
                      Just for reference.
                      -Jeff Cooper

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                      • #26
                        sacluded
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 155

                        As far as I know, there is nothing saying how many digits need to be in a combination. You could make it a one digit lock.
                        My hobbies are cars and guns. I hate this state.

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                        • #27
                          njineermike
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9784

                          Loaded specifically references a cartridge with powder. I wonder if any of those .50 cal airguns would a circumvention of this, and if a small handgun version exists......
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          Dude went full CNN...
                          Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                          • #28
                            ChrisC
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2469

                            Originally posted by tonyxcom
                            WTF is a single round of 22LR gonna do?
                            How about you come ask the parents down the street from me that lost their kid to a single 22 shot in the chest a year or two ago.

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                            • #29
                              glockman19
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 10486

                              It's called Unloaded Concealed Carry and it's already legal. I use the Allen locking zipper soft cases

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                              • #30
                                glockman19
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 10486

                                Originally posted by Untamed1972
                                At some point we need to stop putting effort into coming up with ingenious ways to get around all their stupid laws.......and just get rid of the stupid laws instead.
                                Hallelujah

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