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  • bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20825

    why is it called a round?

    i was haveing an argument that we call a cartridge a "round" because it is one complete series of procedures or a "round of loading" as it comes from the old muzzleloading days of bullet powder and primer being all seperate

    but a friend was saying it was called a round because the bullets were origonally round shaped being spherical

    so what y'all think
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    Josh3239
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 9197

    From Wikipedia, who knows the true accuracy of the page though?

    A cartridge packages the bullet (also known as a "round"), gunpowder and primer into a single metallic case precisely made to fit the firing chamber of a firearm.
    If the bolded is true, that a bullet and a round are the same thing then a round is not a "round of loading", a cartridge is. A cartidge being the bullet, powder, primer, and shell.

    Originally, bullets were metallic or stone balls placed in front of an explosive charge of gun powder at the end of a closed tube. As firearms became more technologically advanced, from 1500 to 1800, bullets changed very little. They remained simple round lead balls, called rounds, differing only in their diameter.
    If the above is true, then the word "rounds" come from the bullets themselves and not from cartidges or "round of loading".

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    • #3
      bruceflinch
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 40137

      Good tidbit of trivia! Thanks
      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

      I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

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      • #4
        eaglemike
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 3939

        Remember wikipedia is not always 100 percent correct - as it is user maintained.

        From reading older text, my understanding would be that it was taken from an abbreviation for "round ball," as in round ball type of shot being used.

        Later use would be the complete cartridge, so pretty much as above.

        all the best,

        Mike
        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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        • #5
          Saigon1965
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          • Nov 2003
          • 17278

          Cool info still. Thanks.

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          • #6
            smle-man
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2007
            • 10593

            It was to differentiate between a single spherical projectile (round) and a shot charge for smooth bore muzzle loading military weapons. Later on a favorite load was 'buck and ball' which was a duplex load of a ball and shot. Still later the term for full jacketed military cartridges co-opted the word 'ball' from 'buck and ball' to denote a FMJ projectile and the word 'round' to designate a complete loaded, unfired cartridge. This is according to what I was taught at Aberdeen Provings Grounds in 1977.

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            • #7
              Xerxes
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 1664

              Originally posted by bohoki
              why is it called a round?

              Because it is not
              ..a square
              ....or a triangle
              ........or a hexagon
              ...........or a pentagon
              ...............or an octogan.

              IN SHAPE!

              The triangle cartridge does exist and it called a.....drum roll please

              .....a TROUND.

              If you ever looked at a cartridge you will see it is

              R_O_U_N_D

              hence why it is called a
              ROUND

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              • #8
                Army
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3915

                Round is short for "round ball", to differentiate it from the "Minie' ball" in the supply trains. Up until the Civil War introduction of the Minie', it was just a ball.
                "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                • #9
                  bohoki
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 20825

                  so its like how people call cartridges bullets?

                  a cartridge has a bullet but a bullet doesn't have a primer

                  its like the whole clip magazine thing that annoys so many

                  because roundness a coke can is round its not a spherical ball

                  damn english and its multi meaning words

                  like the word lead

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