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  • Mitch
    Mostly Harmless
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 6574

    California Compliant Firearms: Enabling Bad Behavior

    Thanks for nothing, Paul.



    I suppose what we ought to be doing is giving up shooting altogether. That'll show those bozos in Sacramento!
    Last edited by Mitch; 08-06-2013, 9:01 AM.
    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.
  • #2
    Gun_Smoke
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 225

    I wonder if he had anyone read that over before he posted it.

    Large commercial firearms manufactures are not creating lots of jobs or generating large tax revenue for California. Nobody who supports gun restrictions cares if gun sales go down in California. If we stop buying guns that people feel need to be regulated then we aren't proving our point we are doing exactly what they wanted, which is putting less "evil weapons" into hands on Californians or whichever state is regulation them. He should be advocating things like featureless guns and 80% builds.

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    • #3
      JKMIII
      Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 163

      Gun manufacturers are businesses. A businesses job is to make money. If they have to slightly modify their firearms to be able to sell them to thousands of people in a "non-free" state, that is their perogative.
      "Sometimes you gonna get higher, and sometimes you gotta start low. Some people think they gonna die someday, I got news ya never got to go" Ted Nugent-Stranglehold

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      • #4
        epilepticninja
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 4166

        I thought he made good points. Course, I like that there are manufacturers that comply with these insane CA laws so I can own AR's and LR-308's.
        Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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        • #5
          SilverTauron
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2012
          • 5699

          Originally posted by Mitch
          Thanks for nothing, Paul.



          I suppose what we ought to be doing is giving up shooting altogether. That'll show those bozos in Sacramento!
          May as well.At the rate CAs going target shooting will be illegal within the decade.

          The authors point is a valid one;outside of profit motive, why should a company sell its wares to a state dedicated to banning them? We already know all of the laws and hoops are engineered as a backdoor gun ban,so the exercise of selling guns with bullet buttons and magazine safeties for legal purposes only props up the legitimacy of the antis.

          The opposition points to previous regulations as justification for more.

          "We have Mag Disconnects and Micro stamping on CA guns,so why not make them nationwide requirements?" -Say the enemy.If gun companies just flat out blacklisted anti-gun markets,there would be no legitimacy.

          Sure thered be no product to sell or shoot in anti gun states,but in my estimation thats going to happen anyways in the years to come.With CAs micrstamping ,NYs SAFE act,and Coneticutts ban,the laws will be too divergent from state to state for companies to adapt to.In the future it won't be possible to make a firearm which is 50 state compliant,if it isn't already.
          The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
          The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
          -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

          The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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          • #6
            elSquid
            In Memoriam
            • Aug 2007
            • 11844

            Many manufacturers make semi auto versions of select fire firearms; I guess that they are enablers too. Is select fire that much more dangerous than semi auto? Would anyone buy an AR15 if they could purchase an M4/M16 for the same price instead? By his logic, no more EBRs until the NFA is rolled back!



            -- Michael

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            • #7
              SilverTauron
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2012
              • 5699

              Originally posted by elSquid
              Many manufacturers make semi auto versions of select fire firearms; I guess that they are enablers too. Is select fire that much more dangerous than semi auto? Would anyone buy an AR15 if they could purchase an M4/M16 for the same price instead? By his logic, no more EBRs until the NFA is rolled back!



              -- Michael
              That is the exact point Feinstine made in January of this year.
              The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
              The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
              -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

              The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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              • #8
                Mitch
                Mostly Harmless
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2008
                • 6574

                Originally posted by elSquid
                Many manufacturers make semi auto versions of select fire firearms; I guess that they are enablers too. Is select fire that much more dangerous than semi auto? Would anyone buy an AR15 if they could purchase an M4/M16 for the same price instead? By his logic, no more EBRs until the NFA is rolled back!



                -- Michael
                Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                • #9
                  chuckdc
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1919

                  I could see if he were advocating not selling to the state (i.e. the state goobermint), but if he has 2 synapses to rub together, he wouldn't be condemning the already-downtrodden gun owners to further restrictions, imposed from without, rather than within.
                  "Mr. Rat, I have a writ here that says you are to stop eating Chen Lee's cornmeal forthwith. Now, It's a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of same!"

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