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  • tnlrat37
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2166

    Major weapon malfunctions

    So I was talking with some buddies about major weapon malfunctions and it got us wondering how often incidents are and what causes them to happen. I'm not talking misfires, jams, or the like. What I am looking for is parts broken, explosions, or injuries and what has caused them.

    My story is I was using my USMC issued Colt M16a2 while deployed as a designated marksman and our first firefight my first round sounded like a shotgun going off and I felt something burn my face, I knew something was wrong and inspected my weapon and found the ejection port cover was blown off, the upper receiver was cracked, the extractor on the bolt was gone, and my magazine expanded which blew the bottom plate off and all my rounds were on the ground. Before you ask no I don't have pics, it was 18 yrs ago. I was very lucky I didn't get hurt besides some burns on my face. The battle lasted for another 15-30 min or so and needless to say having a paperweight in a gunfight was not fun. I ended up just yelling fire adjustments and walking the saw and m60 gunners next to me on target by holding my nvgs up to my acog and watching their tracers, (it was night time and nvgs were only issued to 1 person per squad back then). Later after returning to our ship we found out that my company had 6 major malfunctions in that same firefight. One guy even thought he got shot but it was his extractor that hit his arm. They had armorers go through our weapons and ended up telling us the cause was bad ammo that had been sitting in the bottom of the ship since Vietnam. I have some doubts about that but we ended up dumping the whole lot of ammo into the Indian ocean.

    I have taught quite a few people to shoot and most people think it never happens, I figure maybe some people can tell their stories and others can learn something from it and maybe prevent some possible issues/injuries.
    Last edited by tnlrat37; 08-05-2013, 8:39 PM.
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  • #2
    mif_slim
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2008
    • 10089

    Majority is ammo I'm sure. Bullet pushed inside the case, mass produced ammo are not consistent. I had some 1982 7.62x54r which I pulled the bullet and measured the powder charges. Of the 10 I measured I had a spread of some 2gr difference (this was 10 years ago so dont remember exact gr). Imagine a load (5.56 psi) already high and then adding a grain more to it = KaBoom.

    Other then ammo, operator error such as stuffing chamber or barrel with debris and such can cause a KB too. I haven't had a KB yet and hope I never will but have had squibs which is due to reloader error(me). A small fart sound and if you dont know what a squib round sounds like, slap rack n fire will cause a KB...my BIL did that. His pistols slide was stuck forward and the barrel was bulging where the slide stopped.
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    • #3
      Bobby Ricigliano
      Mit Gott und Mauser
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2011
      • 17439

      Well this pales compared to the OP's story, but here you go:

      I was shooting my brand new unfired Norinco SKS in the desert. I got the rifle new in the box and was putting the first rounds through it. Within 50 rounds or so I fired a round mid-mag and the gun didn't cycle. The was a big puff of smoke and the action was jammed shut. When I finally forced it open the firing pin had pierced the primer and they were stuck together. The firing pin was bent, putting the gun out of action.

      Before anyone comments on the cheap Chinese gun, I can tell you that it was the fault of the ammo (Tula), not the rifle. I replaced the firing pin with a Murray's spring loaded pin and the rifle has ran like a top ever since. That was the one and only failure I have ever had with the dozen + SKS rifles I have had in my possession.

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      • #4
        voiceofreason
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3785

        1. always have 2 guns if possible

        2. don't shoot crap ammo

        thank you for your service
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        • #5
          unusedusername
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4124

          The only place you could find stastically significant information about this is via warrenty returns for new guns, however the manufacturers won't release this information as it isn't in their best interest.

          The next largest consumer of guns is the military, police, and large instutional guard companies, but again, they don't release these numbers.

          For older, used, guns it is unlikely that a source for this information even exists.

          Thank you for your service I appreaciate the "cool story bro".

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          • #6
            Gun_Smoke
            Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 225

            I have witnessed a round get stuck in the barrel due to bad round that didn't have enough powder.

            It was right next to me on the USMC KD range, luckily the coach was behind him and noticed or else something much worse could have happened.

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            • #7
              tnlrat37
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2166

              Originally posted by unusedusername
              The only place you could find stastically significant information about this is via warrenty returns for new guns, however the manufacturers won't release this information as it isn't in their best interest.

              The next largest consumer of guns is the military, police, and large instutional guard companies, but again, they don't release these numbers.

              For older, used, guns it is unlikely that a source for this information even exists.

              Thank you for your service I appreaciate the "cool story bro".

              Not really looking for stats just personal stories that people may have. I would think with all of us being gun people that there would be quite a few. Or maybe it is even more rare than I thought.
              "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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              • #8
                unusedusername
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4124

                Originally posted by tnlrat37
                Not really looking for stats just personal stories that people may have. I would think with all of us being gun people that there would be quite a few. Or maybe it is even more rare than I thought.
                I see... Worst I've ever had was a couple of squib loads in a 357 revolver. The squibs were easily noticed, then tapped out. Both squibs came from the same box of ammo, so go figure.

                I've never had any kind of disastrous malfunction.

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                • #9
                  pisarski
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 740

                  I bought a 1911 in 9mm from a friend of mine years ago. and he gave me some ammo with it reloads. and one of the rounds blew up and blew out the mag and blew crap back in my face my hands stung for a while but that was it.

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                  • #10
                    BigPimping
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 21470

                    I had the back of the receiver blow off a Mac 10 in 45acp once. It was a semi auto version that I was shooting and this was way back in the 1980s when they were still legal.
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                    • #11
                      tnlrat37
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2166

                      Originally posted by BigPimping
                      I had the back of the receiver blow off a Mac 10 in 45acp once. It was a semi auto version that I was shooting and this was way back in the 1980s when they were still legal.
                      Wow that is "Big Pimping"!!
                      "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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