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  • Acidshock
    Junior Member
    • May 2011
    • 3

    Current challenges to ccw requirements?

    I am just curious if anyone knows of any challenge to the CCW regulations relating to the recent ban of open carry? It seems like a very convincing argument could be made that since open carry is banned and since CCW is near impossible then effectively California has banned firearms or at least the carrying of them.
  • #2
    Rangem4
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 407

    A CCW permit is legal and obtainable in every state in the Union.
    I have had no issues renewing mine.
    Why do you say it is "near impossible" to attain?
    sigpicA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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    • #3
      Acidshock
      Junior Member
      • May 2011
      • 3

      Sorry nearly impossible to obtain a CCW permit in California.

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        Deadon
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2010
        • 9975

        Originally posted by Acidshock
        Sorry nearly impossible to obtain a CCW permit in California.
        Not true, my good cause was to protect myself and Family.
        Lions not sheep.

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        • #6
          jay_cue
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1236

          what county are you in though. makes a huge difference.

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          • #7
            Deadon
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2010
            • 9975

            Yes, Sacramento. Pretty much all surrounding areas are the same. Sacramento is a pretty big county. There has been a lot of CCW's issued from Sac.
            Lions not sheep.

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            • #8
              IVth Horseman
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1583

              I've talked to many individuals who are still under the impression that a CCW is unobtainable in CA. Now, while I can't speak for any southern CA counties, I know that is is relatively easy to obtain one in northern CA. You've just gotta apply, act professionally, and pass your handgun qualification course.

              Just apply, you might be pleasantly surprised.

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              • #9
                zinfull
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2006
                • 2733

                Try the Bay Area and it is impossible to obtain for personal protection as a good cause. That should be the only reason to issue.

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                • #10
                  Merc1138
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19742

                  Originally posted by IVth Horseman
                  I've talked to many individuals who are still under the impression that a CCW is unobtainable in CA. Now, while I can't speak for any southern CA counties, I know that is is relatively easy to obtain one in northern CA. You've just gotta apply, act professionally, and pass your handgun qualification course.

                  Just apply, you might be pleasantly surprised.
                  Depends on how far north you're talking. In the heavily populated areas(SF bay area, LA area, etc.) it's pretty unlikely. If you're in the middle of BFE, sure.

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                  • #11
                    stix213
                    AKA: Joe Censored
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18998

                    Originally posted by Acidshock
                    I am just curious if anyone knows of any challenge to the CCW regulations relating to the recent ban of open carry? It seems like a very convincing argument could be made that since open carry is banned and since CCW is near impossible then effectively California has banned firearms or at least the carrying of them.
                    That argument has been made, we're waiting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to decide if they agree with that argument or not. I believe the decisions in both court cases Richards and Peruta are expected in or near the fall. If the SCOTUS takes up a carry case before those cases are decided, expect them to be put on hold until the results of the SCOTUS decision.

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                    • #12
                      Supertac916
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 2423

                      Depends on the county you live in and in the difficult counties you need a "Good Cause" statement. The ability to acquire a CCW changes depending on the political environment and the current Sheriff. When I acquired mine from Sacramento County 12 years ago there were only 250 in the entire county. I believe they issue about 1,500 per year now and is considered to be pretty much "Shall Issue" should you have a clean background.

                      It all depends on the county you live in, when it comes to California. Take a look at the Carry forums and you could get an idea of what counties you could acquire a permit in.

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                      • #13
                        SGT Loco
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1765

                        I hate asking questions like this, but is there anyone on these forums that we can talk to privately about our specific situations and how they apply to CG for a CCW? I live in LA county, so I know it is essentially "No Issue", but even then I think I have an exceptionally strong GC and "favorable factors", as LAPD put it. However, I don't want to blast my business all out in front of everyone.

                        I just need some help evaluating my actual chances and crafting a statement that sounds good- I'd probably drop too many F bombs on my own

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                        SFC Ryan Savard KIA 13 OCT 2012
                        "Sine Pari"

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                        • #14
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by SGT Loco
                          I hate asking questions like this, but is there anyone on these forums that we can talk to privately about our specific situations and how they apply to CG for a CCW? I live in LA county, so I know it is essentially "No Issue", but even then I think I have an exceptionally strong GC and "favorable factors", as LAPD put it. However, I don't want to blast my business all out in front of everyone.

                          I just need some help evaluating my actual chances and crafting a statement that sounds good- I'd probably drop too many F bombs on my own
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                          • #15
                            Fastattack
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1651

                            CCW is impossible in LA County unless you are rich and famous. I pulled the form with the intention of applying, but quickly learned that unless I own a jewelery store and have been robbed two or three times, they won't even consider it. I must show a need - which includes actual incidents like getting the s*it kicked out of me first. Totally stupid. So when I hear that CCW is legal in CA, I want to scream like a girl.

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