Reno Gun stores - Sickening.

[battleship]

Managed to visit Scheels, Sportsmen Warehouse and Cabelas , picked up some boxes of 308 PMC for $16.99 per box at scheels. But the best deals are the prices they set on guns, example Desert Eagle Tiger stripe edition $1,995 Chrome or black standard only $1,499. POF 308 rifle $2,599. Benelli m4 $1,649. Many of the handguns Sigs, H&K, Springfield XDs were at least $200 cheaper than what i am seeing here. And i am not talking about the ones that are off roster or we have to pay more for an SSE.
So what is it, the cost of gun store rent, the drop, test do manufactures amp up the price to dealers in California after they have paid the government for the drop test. Or is it down to the dealers here and the current never ending onslaught of fear mongering. As the price hike seems to apply to every gun in California.
When i saw two near as mint Colt Pythons a 4 inch and a 6 inch Royal blue for $1,899 each i had to write about this.

[fremont lapua]

You can always buy them and have them ship it to an FFL in California.


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[DBADRAT]

Looking at guns and prices out of state is like looking at other women with your wife/girlfriend. you either get slapped or want to slap yourself. I go and drool on their counters while my wife is looking at clothes.

[russ69]

All the extra regulation comes at a price. All the extra stuff we go through has a price tag that goes along with it.

[Merc1138]

You should also keep in mind that you're comparing the Reno shops to your own little microcosm in CA. A gun in one part of CA might be 20% less out the door compared to another part. Even within your area(and you didn't indicate how big. Some people never drive more than 10 minutes, others don't have a problem with an hour to get to the shop, some people shop at places on both ends of their commute, etc.) there may be dealers you aren't even aware of. Also, 1 local dealer might have higher prices on sigs compared to glocks, the other dealer might have better prices on sigs and higher prices on glocks. You also have to consider how the shop is run(range with rentals? Sporting goods store? Office with no actual storefront?).

That aside, also consider the cost of living in CA compared to NV. Compare taxes at the city/county/state level to NV, along with insurance and utility prices. A little here and a little there adds up. Depending on your area in CA, the average customer might be willing to spend more, allowing the shop to raise prices and still sell products.

Then consider all of the fees, CADOJ BS, and simply being CA so a gun shop has to deal with an anti 2a legislature at every level that would just love to yank permits and what not.

Your NV shops also don't have to deal with administering a stupid handgun safety test(stocking cards, having people take the test, scoring it, explaining to people that they've failed, this all eats up time). They probably don't have to deal with a stupid safe handling demo. They have 4473 and NICS to deal with, not DROS on top of that. They also don't have to hang onto already sold inventory for a week and a half(eats up more space, plus more time wasted for pick up, and employees wasting more time means hiring more employees or having customers wait). The NV shops don't have guns that can be sold to person X but not person Y(handgun roster... and in stock inventory that falls off the roster). The NV shops don't have to convert anything when they receive it before it can be sold to customers(installing BB's, having parts for SSE, time to explain why the 1911 in the case has a stupid looking 10" barrel, etc.). The NV shops don't have to buy from CA specific models from manufacturers and distributors, and don't have to worry about sights on one model or a finish on another for a customer that doesn't care(they even get models from manufacturers, that people in CA have never heard of). The NV shops can just buy and sell used guns, they don't have to waste time and storage space on a "PPT".

There are probably things that I missed, but yeah all that little crap here and there adds up and someone has to pay for it in the form of taxes or increased OTD price.

[tleeocinca]

I can understand that a business has to make some profit, but some gun stores are a little crazy. I've seen Glocks in CA sell for as much as $700+ and in other states you can get the same Glock for around $459 give or take a few dollars more. The fact is, there are some stores that increase their cost a little for the red tape and enjoy selling guns. Then you have others who are out to just rape you and they don't care about repeat business. The ones that do this are very short lived and are really suffering. You just have to pick your purchases and keep an eye on the stores that really try to gut you on the prices.

[Merc1138]

I can understand that a business has to make some profit, but some gun stores are a little crazy. I've seen Glocks in CA sell for as much as $700+ and in other states you can get the same Glock for around $459 give or take a few dollars more. The fact is, there are some stores that increase their cost a little for the red tape and enjoy selling guns. Then you have others who are out to just rape you and they don't care about repeat business. The ones that do this are very short lived and are really suffering. You just have to pick your purchases and keep an eye on the stores that really try to gut you on the prices.

Short lived? Some of the shops I've seen with the highest prices have been around the longest.

[smak28]

I believe that law is that you can't purchase a handgun in person out of state and ship to local FFL but can with long guns. I was just up in Reno this past weekend and saw a FN Five Seven pistol for $1249 at Cabela's.

[Findout]

What's confusing about better availability and prices being lower in a state with substantially less restrictive laws regarding firearms and all things related to their ownership, use, sale, transfer and legality?

[Merc1138]

What's confusing about better availability and prices being lower in a state with substantially less restrictive laws regarding firearms and all things related to their ownership, use, sale, transfer and legality?

Indeed. Hell, just look at the price of gas. The national average today is around $3.60, yet the CA average is over $4.

[Spyder]

I believe that law is that you can't purchase a handgun in person out of state and ship to local FFL but can with long guns.

Well, ya believed wrong.

[battleship]

Thank you for schooling me.

[CRTguns]

For example... Magnum research has developed 2 different DEs... the CA gun with 4 or 5 ecxtra parts to comply with laws, and the non CA gun. CA gun costs more cause it consts more.

ALl MFGs on the roster pay a chuck of $$ to sell here... so they offset that expense by marking up the CA designated guns accordingly.

Some Wholesale distributors have different price lists for CA and the USA. YOu live in an expensive state. C;mon over to Vegas man. I bought 10 thousand primers the other day. There's pallets of 7.62 and 223 in every gun shop... and nobody picks up brass at the gun ranges. It's like heaven.

The plenitude of belt fed select fire suppressed weapons does not hurt either- just seeing them on the shelf helps the blood pressure. Makes me smile.

[Rob454]

I can understand that a business has to make some profit, but some gun stores are a little crazy. I've seen Glocks in CA sell for as much as $700+ and in other states you can get the same Glock for around $459 give or take a few dollars more. The fact is, there are some stores that increase their cost a little for the red tape and enjoy selling guns. Then you have others who are out to just rape you and they don't care about repeat business. The ones that do this are very short lived and are really suffering. You just have to pick your purchases and keep an eye on the stores that really try to gut you on the prices.

California is simply a more expensive place to live and purchase stuff in. We have extra hoops to run through. Comparing prices from California to another state is like comparing current house prices to bubble prices of 05-06.