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  • #31
    SilverTauron
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 5699

    Originally posted by negolien
    If you don't have a carry permit my answer would be not at all. If it's for "self defense" Carrying it legally in a vehicle would pretty much make it useless for defense wouldn't it? Oh excuse me.. I know you're car jacking me but do you mind if I pop the trunk and grab my pistol?
    The practice also gives ammo to the State if they pursue a prosecution against the OP after a defensive incident.Like another poster said,if you have enough time to unlock a case and chamber the gun you've got enough time to escape and dial 911.

    Given the amount of vehicle break ins and thefts nowadays,best the OP leave the gun at home.
    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
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    The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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    • #32
      voiceofreason
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 3785

      Originally posted by SilverTauron
      The practice also gives ammo to the State if they pursue a prosecution against the OP after a defensive incident.Like another poster said,if you have enough time to unlock a case and chamber the gun you've got enough time to escape and dial 911.

      Given the amount of vehicle break ins and thefts nowadays,best the OP leave the gun at home.

      I disagree with the first paragraph.

      Even with a CCW, trips to places like the post office require leaving your firearm in your car legally.
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      • #33
        glockman19
        Banned
        • Jun 2007
        • 10486

        Why not Unloaded Locked Concealed Carry? Get an Allen locking soft nylon case, keep unloaded gun and loaded magazine in the same locked case.

        Then you can carry it on you, in the glove box or under the seat.
        Last edited by glockman19; 06-30-2013, 10:34 AM.

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        • #34
          Felix168
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 501

          Simply put, without the CCW, you cannot really have a pistol in your car for self-defense purpose.
          There already is a law prohibits open carry.
          And if you're going to argue that your car is your home, then how are you going to justify shooting an intruder outside of your car?

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          • #35
            Felix168
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 501

            Originally posted by glockman19
            Why not Unloaded Concealed Carry? Get an Allen locking soft nylon case, keep unloaded gun and loaded magazine in the same locked case.

            Then you can carry it on you, in the glove box or under the seat.
            you must be joking, correct?

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            • #36
              SilverTauron
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2012
              • 5699

              Originally posted by voiceofreason
              I disagree with the first paragraph.

              Even with a CCW, trips to places like the post office require leaving your firearm in your car legally.
              Not necessarily.If I'm driving to a state building I'll leave the gun at home.Why bother bringing it if you're spending most of the trip in a prohibited area?
              The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
              The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
              -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

              The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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              • #37
                glockman19
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 10486

                Originally posted by Felix168
                you must be joking, correct?
                Not joking, Totally legal.

                You can carry on your person a firearm concealed in a locked case with ammunition in the magazine as long as the magazine is NOT in the firearm.

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                • #38
                  HappyCamper781
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1856

                  @ Felix168 Vs glickman19:

                  If carrying in a locked case were illegal, I'd be breaking the law every time I walk from parking on a public street into the firing range(s) I go to.

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                  • #39
                    Packy14
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5312

                    Originally posted by HappyCamper781
                    @ Felix168 Vs glickman19:

                    If carrying in a locked case were illegal, I'd be breaking the law every time I walk from parking on a public street into the firing range(s) I go to.
                    Wow, someone who actually thinks, bravo. This thread is so fail.
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                    • #40
                      Travis590A1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 5233

                      Originally posted by negolien
                      If you don't have a carry permit my answer would be not at all. If it's for "self defense" Carrying it legally in a vehicle would pretty much make it useless for defense wouldn't it? Oh excuse me.. I know you're car jacking me but do you mind if I pop the trunk and grab my pistol?
                      Not really, if its in a lock box next to you then its a viable option. I agree that 99% of the time your more than likely going to have time to drive away to avoid contact before needing to draw your gun, but there's still that 1%.

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                      • #41
                        Hoshnasi
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2515

                        Originally posted by Felix168
                        Simply put, without the CCW, you cannot really have a pistol in your car for self-defense purpose.
                        There already is a law prohibits open carry.
                        And if you're going to argue that your car is your home, then how are you going to justify shooting an intruder outside of your car?
                        You're wrong. Please don't propagate legal FUD.
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                        • #42
                          -hanko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                          when I drive I have both my Px4 and two magazines locked together in a combination case, sitting on the passenger side of my vehicle

                          the magazines are not in the magwell, in fact I even have the 3-digit combination set so that I only have to move one of the 3 into place to unlock...by law, its still locked until I move that last digit into place

                          been doing it that way for years, granted, never had an issue about it, but, as far as the research I've done, I am not breaking any transportation laws

                          if a LEO happens to feel differently about that, I guess we'll let the courts decide if I've broken a law or not
                          Same here.

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                          • #43
                            -hanko
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14174

                            Originally posted by Felix168
                            Simply put, without the CCW, you cannot really have a pistol in your car for self-defense purpose.
                            There already is a law prohibits open carry.
                            And if you're going to argue that your car is your home, then how are you going to justify shooting an intruder outside of your car?
                            You really need to understand the difference between "cannot" and "may not".

                            WHY would you not want to be able to defend yourself and/or your friends and family just because you're mobile?

                            -hanko
                            True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                            Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                            Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                            A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                            • #44
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 44646

                              Originally posted by glockman19
                              Not joking, Totally legal.

                              You can carry on your person a firearm concealed in a locked case with ammunition in the magazine as long as the magazine is NOT in the firearm.
                              ... which is why I recommended the locked case over something else and carry in the trunk. The 'pass through' and 'remote release' issues are unsettled - easier just to skip them and go with something clearer (that is, if you can live with the usage of 'secure' also being unsettled).
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                              • #45
                                HappyCamper781
                                CGSSA Coordinator
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1856

                                ^^ Always the best and final word on the situation.

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