whats the difference between hk

[battleship]

So i saw a HK P2000, IN 40SW and was wondering what the difference was between the P2000 and the HK USP 40SW is it just a later model design and its down to cosmetics or is there a significant change threw out the design, was the earlier model flawed in some way, that prompted HK to make the P -series Models.?

Also i just checked out the new price list from HK and it would appear that the HK USP models cost close to a $100 more than the P series models which are a new model. hmm whats up with that.

[leelaw]

USP is fullsize, P2000 is a compact size. Other than that, I do not know.

[battleship]

Yes but USP also comes in a compact carry version

[Saigon1965]

Newer mod to take your hard earn money. Ergonomics are a tad different. It's all about marketing, and we snatch it all up.

[battleship]

Yes we do, dont we.

[Rivers]

The P2000 is virtually identical in dimensions to the USP Compact .40 cal. Internally, the P2000 is supposed to be a bit improved on the older USP mechanics. (This comment is from an authorized HK armorer and gunsmith.) The P2000 and the USPc use the same magazines, and the sub-compact P2000sk will also use those mags.

[MicronuT]

The P2000 is virtually identical in dimensions to the USP Compact .40 cal. Internally, the P2000 is supposed to be a bit improved on the older USP mechanics. (This comment is from an authorized HK armorer and gunsmith.) The P2000 and the USPc use the same magazines, and the sub-compact P2000sk will also use those mags.

the p2000 is a much slimmer design. i wouldnt say theyre identical, id say the p2000 is an improvement. its slimmer, you have backstrap options, this might not matter to some, but its got an ambi slide release. look em over side by side, youll see what i mean.

the p2000 is closer in design to the p30, and hk45's

[Black Majik]

It's pretty simple actually. Lets compare the USP compact to the P2000 since it's similar in size. The P2000 comes in DA/SA or LEM. The USP comes in DA/SA and Cocked and locked, or LEM. The DA/SA with cocked and locked capability is a nice option to have depending on the action you prefer. Up to safe, middle to fire, down to decock.

In my opinion, that's the only advantage of the USP, the ability to carry condition 1. Otherwise, the P2000 has a better trigger in both DA and SA, more ergonomic, ambi friendly, and uses USPc magazines and holsters.

I'd pick the P2000 over the USP variants in the end. It's just a better overall pistol. But only by a small margin.

[ColdSteel]

I love my P2K. It's an awesome piece of equipment. Theres no safety to fool with and the decocker is in a convenient location right on the back of the slide.
Hold one in your hands, you'll see.

[Vin496]

I have 2 fullsize USPs(.45 and 9mm) and 1 P2000 .40 with LEM. I like em all, but the P2000 with LEM is perfect for me, it took a few range sessions to adjust to the LEM, kept shooting low, but once I did, I found that pistol to be a perfect sidearm for me, accurate,reliable,comfortable, and easy to shoot. It would be great if they could do a P2000 in .45 without changing the dimensions of the grips, don't know if it's possible or not.

I still like my Full Size USP, something about a big .45 I love, and the ability to carry cocked and locked, but the P2000 is really special.

[battleship]

That P2000 i saw and started this thread with -

well i just drossed it today, only has 30 rounds threw it im led to believe, well it looks next to brand new, original box and all paperwork.

Original owner is LEO and only used it to qualify in some tournament, his words.

It has the LEM trigger system and night sights

caliber is 40 SW

picked her up for $650, got her down from $700 so it looks like i got a good deal. He originally had it at the FFL for $799

Now i have to wait the ten misserable days.

was wondering about the rail attachment it would seem on the P30 the attachment is more predominent with a full Pictinney rail under the frame, does this mean if im to attach any light source then i will need an extra attachment for it.

[CALI-gula]

I always liked H&K handguns in the past, some of my favorite handguns especially the P9 series in both 9mm and .45ACP) and have everything from the VP70s, P9s, and most of the P7 series; I really liked my early production USP in .40S&W, and my USP Elite is very nicely put together.

However, it seems as the USP production carried on, the fit and quality started to diminish. Early production USPs felt like typical tightly made German engineering, but as it got toward the last few years, the quality didn't seem much better than a Glock, and reliability problems were reported more frequently. They just seem sloppier that the early production USPs. And this new batch of glorified USPs with a different name doesn't impress me much either. I've held the new HK-45 and did not see any reason to buy it if one already owns a USP in .45 - same goes for the P2000 in comparison to its USP counterpart.

Instead of spending my money on a new HK-45, I would attempt to seek out a P9s in .45 and place my money on that. I still think it's a much better gun than the USP and this new HK-45. It's neat the USP had all these variant possibilities and a rail for people who think they need that kind of thing, but for me, it never topped the P9 series.

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[gunrun45]

Your new P2000 takes has a standard rail for light attachment. You do not need an adapter like you would for some of the other H&K handguns. Due to the rail overall length it might be wise to use a smaller light ligh the one designed for Springfield's XD compact series. IMO the proprietary rail requiring an adapter was the one large downfall of the original USP design along with the lack of an ambi slide release.