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  • #46
    40calibre
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 463

    how about .22lr? with bulk boxes I have several that don't go off in my 10/22 and I just eject them, should I still be keeping the round chambered and wait atleast 30seconds?

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    • #47
      apple312
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 5

      i think this was a very useful information which you shared with us .thank u for your sharing.

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      • #48
        RR.44
        CGSSA Leader
        • Mar 2012
        • 1933

        When I was at ASR this past Sunday a guy 2 benches over had several .223s not fire out of his AR, I advised him not to eject them so quickly but he just ignored me and every time he did this I just tried to keep away, he blamed it on the AR not the ammo, said his AR was malfunctioning, hope he doesn't learn the hard way, BTW he was using Magtech ammo
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        • #49
          fastfiat
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 16

          Originally posted by Artema
          I had two boxes of Remington UMC that gave me 13 out of 100 completely non-fire. They were completely inert, and second attempts did not make them go off. The stack grew and eventually just disposed of them. The primers were pushed in and all sorts of crap. Never buying that in 10mm again.
          I'm having the same problem with there 9mm ammo. The last two trips to the range my 9mm shooting Rem UMC would non-fire at least 1 round per mag. The gun had not missed a shot in probably 500 rounds before that. Toke the gun home and gave it a thorough cleaning but still had the problem next time out. Really thought it was the gun but ill buy some other ammo and try it. Now what the heck to do with 250 rnds of UMC.

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          • #50
            Artema
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 3821

            Originally posted by fastfiat
            I'm having the same problem with there 9mm ammo. The last two trips to the range my 9mm shooting Rem UMC would non-fire at least 1 round per mag. The gun had not missed a shot in probably 500 rounds before that. Toke the gun home and gave it a thorough cleaning but still had the problem next time out. Really thought it was the gun but ill buy some other ammo and try it. Now what the heck to do with 250 rnds of UMC.
            lol, ship them to me, I'll deal with the duds. Seriously, I'd buy them (for reasonable price) if you're interested.
            - SAAMI Pressure Specs
            Originally posted by Artema
            I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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            • #51
              fastfiat
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 16

              Artema,check your pm.

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              • #52
                bplvr
                Senior Member
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2008
                • 3946

                Your O/P should be printed and handed out at ALL the CGSSA and Appleseed shoots.
                I'm going to print some up as a handout at the gun show booths. {with your permission}
                "America will never be destroyed from the outside.
                If we falter and lose our freedoms,it will be because we destroyed ourselves"

                -Abraham Lincoln,a summation of a speech given at the Lyceum in 1838
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                "Revolution against tyranny is the most sacred of duties"
                - Benjamin Franklin -1775
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                • #53
                  Sojournertruth
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 270

                  Originally posted by joe_sun
                  Yet another reason to never buy a revolver ;-)


                  Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
                  well done...complete misunderstanding of the issue and mechanics involved

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                  • #54
                    joe_sun
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1905

                    Originally posted by Sojournertruth
                    well done...complete misunderstanding of the issue and mechanics involved
                    You see that little smiley face with the wink? That means it was a joke.
                    Last edited by joe_sun; 07-22-2014, 10:39 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Decoligny
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 10615

                      Originally posted by Justintoxicated
                      I don't get it, your saying the primer went off without being hit? Or it went off but was not strong enough to pop the projectile out of the case?

                      I have never even heard of that, I didn't know it was possible.
                      OP had three unfired rounds left in the revolver.

                      Pulled the trigger three time in a semi-rapid fire.

                      First trigger pull went click, firing pin hit primer, but no bang.
                      Second trigger rotated unfired round off the barrel position and fired the second round "Bang".
                      Third trigger pull also went "Bang".

                      OP then rotated unfired first round back to the barrel position, where it promptly proceeded to discharge on its own long after the primer was hit by the firing pin.
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                      If you haven't seen it with your own eyes,
                      or heard it with your own ears,
                      don't make it up with your small mind,
                      or spread it with your big mouth.

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                      • #56
                        Libtard
                        Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 437

                        Originally posted by meyerlemony
                        I am a relatively new shooter, and I have never heard of this - and it is scary...



                        So if I'm at the range, shooting, well, anything, it sounds like, and I hit a "dud" (which I do, on occasion), I should wait 30 seconds before opening the slide and dumping out the dud?

                        The rule at our range is to keep the weapon pointed down range, and raise your non-firing hand for the range master. You aren't supposed to do anything but keep the weapon pointed down range until he or she arrives.

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                        • #57
                          Shooter1234
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4

                          Thanks for the information. This is really helpful and should be made known to all gun owners.

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                          • #58
                            Shooter1234
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4

                            Originally posted by Libtard
                            The rule at our range is to keep the weapon pointed down range, and raise your non-firing hand for the range master. You aren't supposed to do anything but keep the weapon pointed down range until he or she arrives.
                            I have also been told the same thing. It is hard though when you are out in the boonies and there aren't range masters so it is good that this information is available.

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                            • #59
                              Libtard
                              Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 437

                              Originally posted by Shooter1234
                              I have also been told the same thing. It is hard though when you are out in the boonies and there aren't range masters so it is good that this information is available.
                              After I read this thread, the next time I went to the range, I put a snap cap randomly into a few of my magazines, just to practice how to react if the weapon doesn't fire.

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                              • #60
                                RestrictedColt
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 773

                                The case may or may not rupture depending on several factors; crimp, sealant, neck tension, powder burn rate, luck,...but they usually do rupture from my experiences. The case or fragments of case will take off at high velocity and could injure someone. The bullet is the lowest concern, it'll come off but won't go far or fast at all, generally just pop off. I've tested this with a few different rounds. I've also played with a few primed cases full of powder (no bullet) as 'fireworks'. Light the powder and watch it burn, when the burn reaches the primer the cases will fly pretty good from the power of just the primer so beware. After seeing it happen a few times I wouldn't want to be near a cartridge that blows up in free air.

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