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  • Sheperd80
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 431

    Things that go Bump in the Night

    Warning: Rambling Thread.

    I wanted to talk about home defense and the value of those false alarms im sure many of you have experienced.

    I keep a pistol with light attachment bedside, and every now and then I'll hear something and go check it out. Most of the time its my water heater creaking and groaning, or the freezer crackling, or stray cats, etc. But i try to be vigilant. If i cant positively tell what a sound was i wait for another and then go check it out.

    Id say i grab my gun and casually go lookin around once or twice a month on average. But in the past year i have had a handful of geniune scares, where i truly thought someone was in or trying to get in my house, and those few incidents have helped me greatly.

    Incident 1: My brother was staying with us, i went to bed and he said he was leaving. 2 hours later i awoke to loud rummaging in the living room. I got tense, grabbed the pistol and forgot everything i have taught myself to do in this situation. I poked my head and gun out of my bedroom with light on and said "whos there!?" no answer. Walked out and illuminated my brother with finger on the trigger.

    Grade, FAIL: Imaginary assailant knows im coming and where i am. Im not scanning or alert im just hiding behind my gun. Im nervous and probably wouldnt shoot well at all.

    Incident 2: I awoke around 3am to what sounded like someone trying to pry open my garage door. Proceeded forth a little more calmly this time but still hit the gun light right away and had tunnel vision. Nerves more under control but tactics are off.

    D: They know im coming again but i was slightly better prepared.

    Incident 3: I was awake this time, around midnight. Heard the backyard gate rattle then crunching steps in the gravel which is only on my side of the gate. Slight improvement again. Left the light off, moved quietly, overcame the nerves and went into spidey senses. I remembered that its important to see them before they see you. I want to be able to identify a threat before they see me so i have those critical seconds to make a decision. Took the back route to the gate discretely and found the furry four legged assailant checkin my trash. I was supsised at how loud his steps were in the gravel.

    B: I was ready this time but i think if i had to shoot, shooting fundamentals would have been forgotten. And i didnt make sure other entry points to house were clear before going outside.

    Incident 4: I still to this day think somebody jumped my fence and left before i got there. I was up late in the living room so i grabbed the shotgun from the safe instead of pistol. Long story short i discretely looked through the drapes, then crept around to backyard and did everything right (in my opinion).

    A: I was ready. I felt the fear but controlled it. Checked my gun safety and chamber, remembered my grip, my sights, what may be behind my target etc. They would not have heard or seen me, they wouldnt have been able to get inside because i checked locks, and i wouldnt have missed.


    I have no formal training. I shoot alot and read alot and have my own idea of how to deal with a home defense situation. I know many people will say to hole up in your room and call the cops but i cant do that everytime a cat jumps my fence, and im not waiting for LEO to come write down all the belongings or loved ones ive already lost when he gets there. So that is my approach.

    The moral of this long winded story is this. For those of us with no training and no experience in real life threatening scenarios, nothing beats a few genuine scares to better prepare you for dealing with it. I feel more confident now and i definitely learned a few things. Everything changes when real fear kicks in. NO i havent been shot at and thats another level, but atleast ive faced the enemy in myself a few times.

    One other observation. The enhanced feeling of security when holding a 12 guage compared to a 9mm was incredible. I might start putting it bedside instead.
    Last edited by Sheperd80; 05-19-2013, 11:39 AM.
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    vtrigger77
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1450

    Thats why i have my dogs. First line of defence.

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    • #3
      Sheperd80
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 431

      Originally posted by vtrigger77
      Thats why i have my dogs. First line of defence.
      I rent and cant have a dog unfortunately.

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      • #4
        vtrigger77
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1450

        Cameras? Wait that means drilling holes and you cant do that on a rent can u?

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        • #5
          michaelthetrojan
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 1070

          Originally posted by Sheperd80
          Warning: Rambling Thread.
          Everything changes when real fear kicks in. NO i havent been shot at and thats another level, but atleast ive faced the enemy in myself a few times.


          well said sir. i believe many people need to understand that just by owning a gun does make you chris kyle.

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          • #6
            ElvenSoul
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 17431

            Surveillance drone

            Fly that sucker into their face
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            • #7
              biglou
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1317

              Originally posted by Sheperd80
              I rent and cant have a dog unfortunately.
              You can get a portable motion sensor and set it up where ever you want. Radio Shack use to sell them, don't know if they still do.

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              • #8
                michaelthetrojan
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1070

                Originally posted by biglou
                You can get a portable motion sensor and set it up where ever you want. Radio Shack use to sell them, don't know if they still do.
                just grab a motion light from lowes for o 20 30 bucks.
                take out the light and wire a small alarm or something. or maybe just keep the light the technology in the motion system is fantastic and can be manipulated very easily,

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                • #9
                  Sheperd80
                  Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 431

                  Originally posted by vtrigger77
                  Cameras? Wait that means drilling holes and you cant do that on a rent can u?
                  Yeah i probably could. My landlord is pretty cool. I like the idea of motion lights. But they'd be coming on alot from stray cats and i would still have to go investigate. Lights might deter some thieves but not all of em. I live in a decent neighborhood adjacent to a crappy neighborhood. We have alot of break-ins on my block.

                  Thanks for all the ideas but the point of the thread was just an observation of what we THINK we will do and what we WILL actually do when we truly believe its about to go down.

                  Edited*
                  Last edited by Sheperd80; 05-19-2013, 12:13 PM.

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                  • #10
                    michaelthetrojan
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1070

                    Originally posted by Sheperd80
                    Yeah i probably could. My landlord is pretty cool. I like the idea of motion lights. But they'd be coming on alot from stray cats and i would still have to check it out.
                    you can turn the sensitivity down or up

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                    • #11
                      Zedrek
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1812

                      I have enough lights surrounding my house to possibly detour aircraft from the local airport. I also have a bunch of led night lights and keep the light on in my hallway over the front door. I also rent but I have two dogs that bark at any bumps in the middle of the night.
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                      • #12
                        9mmepiphany
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 8075

                        I understand that this thread is about facing your personal fears and being able to act through them; I also understand that you don't have any formal training. So if you'll allow me to point out a couple of things training would have taught which would increase your margin of safety during these incidents.

                        Incident 1. You noted correctly your failure in your response, however you didn't note the easily avoid error. You shouldn't search with a Weapon Mounted Light (WML) because it means you point the muzzle at everything you're illuminating (Violation of Rule 3). A WML should not be used as a substitute for a hand held light for searching a room. An even better idea is to just turn on the lights in the room.

                        Incident 3 & 4. Are tactical failures. You should never leave the safety of your house to clear the yard. First, you have no idea if someone is laying in ambush waiting for you; secondly, your ability to use deadly force in this situation is much more questionable than inside the residence
                        ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                        • #13
                          Panchira!
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1142

                          If you live in a bad area maybe move if you can. I have had those bumps in the night and let me tell you it gets your heart beating and your mind racing. Someone tried to get in my front door at 3:30am. Scary as all heck.

                          If you want to get crazy you can get some trip wire and the light stick holder thingy (forgot what it's called) its used for signaling a specific area where someone passed. Put said trip wire waist high so animals will pass under it. Intruder (person) enters area light stick confirms bump in the night you heard you can now be much more ready.
                          I don't remember the time I was human that's why I don't understand anybody.
                          The sound of a cat puking is the most effective alarm clock.
                          There's danger lurking around every corner, that's why I propose we make all of our buildings round.

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                          • #14
                            CreamyFettucini
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 477

                            Originally posted by Sheperd80
                            Incident 1: My brother was staying with us, i went to bed and he said he was leaving. 2 hours later i awoke to loud rummaging in the living room. I got tense, grabbed the pistol and forgot everything i have taught myself to do in this situation. I poked my head and gun out of my bedroom with light on and said "whos there!?" no answer. Walked out and illuminated my brother with finger on the trigger.
                            I wouldn't clear a room with your finger on the trigger. Imagine what would have happened if you slipped with your finger on the trigger, or if you were frightened when you first saw your brother. It really doesn't take much time moving your finger from the frame to the trigger when needed.

                            I say take a tactical handgun course then go home and practice doing things the right way.

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                            • #15
                              Mag Commander
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 2198

                              I've had several experienced people tell me, if your house/condo layout allows it, to take up a defensive position that gives you a shot advantage on someone coming up the stairs, down a hall, or through a door. I've always practiced and exercised the "clear the house" method. But the defensive approach has got me thinking. This information on the Box O Truth was helpful to me: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/lowlight.htm

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