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  • TeddyBallgame
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2012
    • 5732

    Gun question

    Can a rifle be purchased new with more than one person being owner?

    I ask because I think i'm getting close to buying my first AR

    Im 56 and my son is 24...is the AR ends up non transferable that could suck

    So, I'm thinking about just getting it in HIS name, or, both names, if possible

    I would hate to see loss of the firearm if either of us die
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  • #2
    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
    Can a rifle be purchased new with more than one person being owner?

    I ask because I think i'm getting close to buying my first AR

    Im 56 and my son is 24...is the AR ends up non transferable that could suck

    So, I'm thinking about just getting it in HIS name, or, both names, if possible

    I would hate to see loss of the firearm if either of us die
    A weapon has a single owner.

    You can't get it in his name, per se. He can get it in his name, or you can get in in your name and do an inter-familial transfer to him.

    Easier if he gets it in his name.

    hth

    -hanko
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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    • #3
      curtru
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1278

      Get two or have him buy his own

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      • #4
        TeddyBallgame
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2012
        • 5732

        Originally posted by -hanko
        A weapon has a single owner.

        You can't get it in his name, per se. He can get it in his name, or you can get in in your name and do an inter-familial transfer to him.

        Easier if he gets it in his name.

        hth

        -hanko
        yeah I understand that part, he would have to come and basically purchase it...with MY money of course, just worried that if something happens to him, after a ban, the gun could be a lost cause
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        • #5
          -hanko
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
          yeah I understand that part, he would have to come and basically purchase it...with MY money of course, just worried that if something happens to him, after a ban, the gun could be a lost cause
          It could be a lost cause, just as it is now if a RAW were only registered to one person.

          The purchasing process allows only one buyer's name.

          IF CA requires registration, it may allow (but I doubt it) multiple registration names as it did in 2000-2001.

          -hanko
          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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          • #6
            golfish
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2013
            • 10115

            So why can't he buy it and after its at home sitting on the coffee table, tell his son "ok, now this rifle is yours unless you tick me off and then its mine"

            its my understanding there is no paperwork to do on a father son or son father transfer. Its just, Here ya go!

            These threads come up every now and then and nobody seems to really come up with a simple answer or doesn't want to post a simple answer.

            At this point in time, its just a long gun, right?
            It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
            Happiness is a warm gun.

            MLC, First 3

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            • #7
              alfred1222
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 7331

              Gun trust
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              This guy is a complete and total idiot.
              /thread.

              ΦΑ

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              • #8
                TeddyBallgame
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 5732

                Originally posted by golfish
                So why can't he buy it and after its at home sitting on the coffee table, tell his son "ok, now this rifle is yours unless you tick me off and then its mine"

                its my understanding there is no paperwork to do on a father son or son father transfer. Its just, Here ya go!

                These threads come up every now and then and nobody seems to really come up with a simple answer or doesn't want to post a simple answer.

                At this point in time, its just a long gun, right?
                I'm basically thinking further down the road, if they are banned, word is they won't be transferable to anyone once the original owner dies...anything to eventually dry up the supply
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                • #9
                  Beetle Bailey
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 2620

                  Buy the rifle for yourself, and buy a stripped lower for him. Worse comes to worse, he can move all the parts off your lower and put them on his.
                  "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

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                  • #10
                    golfish
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 10115

                    Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                    I'm basically thinking further down the road, if they are banned, word is they won't be transferable to anyone once the original owner dies...anything to eventually dry up the supply
                    Is this a RAW? if not, how are "they" going to know who the original owner is?

                    These are questions I'm asking, not answers..
                    It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                    Happiness is a warm gun.

                    MLC, First 3

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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      Originally posted by golfish
                      Is this a RAW? if not, how are "they" going to know who the original owner is?

                      These are questions I'm asking, not answers..
                      They won't.

                      However, starting 01-01-2014, they will start to know.

                      On 01-01-2014, long gun registration goes into effect.
                      Which means all firearms that are transferred will be registered to the person acquiring the firearm.
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                      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                      • #12
                        TeddyBallgame
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 5732

                        Originally posted by Quiet
                        They won't.

                        However, starting 01-01-2014, they will start to know.

                        On 01-01-2014, long gun registration goes into effect.
                        Which means all firearms that are transferred will be registered to the person acquiring the firearm.
                        well, that is a relief because I thought it was 01-01-2013 that it went into effect...I have some time now...thnx
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                        • #13
                          Just.a.guy
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 407

                          Just buy the gun, and it can transfer freely and instantly between the two of you. Until next year, there's no long gun registration, so it doesn't matter at all. As long as neither of you are prohibited persons, you're good to go.

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                          • #14
                            CWDraco
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 3359

                            Originally posted by Beetle Bailey
                            Buy the rifle for yourself, and buy a stripped lower for him. Worse comes to worse, he can move all the parts off your lower and put them on his.
                            The best answer is to buy a second stripped lower. Cost an extra $150. When you pass on, just swap all the parts to the other lower he purchased.

                            thats if he hasnt built that second lower into a rifle

                            when I die all the state is getting is a few stripped receivers, there is no way I am allowing my family to give the state several thousand dollars of gun parts.

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                            • #15
                              Metal God
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 1839

                              If the OP does not mined I'd like to expand on this question . My plan is to transfer a complete AR to my son . This way if any of the new laws will prevent me from doing so latter it will already be done . Here is the question , I have no intention on giving him the gun right away .

                              Can he legally keep the firearm at my house if he lives in a different city or at my house period ?

                              What would happen if Im out shooting and for what ever reason the cops see that the gun is not really mine but my sons ?
                              Tolerate
                              allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

                              Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

                              I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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