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  • eddyk
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 373

    ProForce in Brea new rule?

    So I bought a Glock from ProForce as a security professional, but I just called in today to ask if they had another Glock I was looking for and they said that in order to be able to purchase, I need to be currently employed by a security agency... I never had this problem before... Is this a new rule? Anyone else ever run into this problem?
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  • #2
    send it_hit
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2454

    That's not correct.

    They may be referring to your guard card/open firearms permits, which would exempt you from the HSC card and test. You do not need to be employed with a security agency to purchase any CA legal Glock.

    The other thing they may be referring to is blue label, a special program from Glock to provide first responders with Glocks at a discounted price. With your guard credentials you'd be eligible for that as well.

    EDIT: also, I'm not sure if you're looking for an off-roster Glock ie: gen4. In which case you would need to have law enforcement credentials to purchase from a dealer... They may be confused and think you're looking for an off roster gun.
    Last edited by send it_hit; 05-13-2013, 7:13 PM.

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    • #3
      DFence
      • Feb 2012
      • 1368

      Originally posted by jacobIDSC
      That's not correct.

      They may be referring to your guard card/open firearms permits, which would exempt you from the HSC card and test. You do not need to be employed with a security agency to purchase any Glock.

      The other thing they may be referring to is blue label, a special program from Glock to provide first responders with Glocks at a discounted price. With your guard credentials you'd be eligible for that as well.
      Pro Force only sells to people in certain types if employment. Not open to the general public and they can choose to set said rule as the they see fit.
      Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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      • #4
        eddyk
        Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 373

        Originally posted by DFence
        Pro Force only sells to people in certain types if employment. Not open to the general public and they can choose to set said rule as the they see fit.
        Yeah trust me I specifically said "I have a guard card and an exposed firearm permit. I am in the middle of a career transition. Is it still not okay?" He said "you need to be employed by a security agency to be considered a security professional" I was stunned... Last time I bought it from there I didn't have any problems... And that was like a month and a half ago... Ill try calling again and hope I get a different guy on the phone.
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        • #5
          DFence
          • Feb 2012
          • 1368

          Originally posted by eddyk
          Yeah trust me I specifically said "I have a guard card and an exposed firearm permit. I am in the middle of a career transition. Is it still not okay?" He said "you need to be employed by a security agency to be considered a security professional" I was stunned... Last time I bought it from there I didn't have any problems... And that was like a month and a half ago... Ill try calling again and hope I get a different guy on the phone.
          They may have changed their rules. That place has been crazy busy for awhile now.
          Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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          • #6
            send it_hit
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 2454

            Originally posted by DFence
            Pro Force only sells to people in certain types if employment. Not open to the general public and they can choose to set said rule as the they see fit.
            Huh. That's interesting... I have no experience with the shop. I was speaking purely from the legal standpoint, but you're right. Their shop, their rules. An interesting dynamic for a shop though. I know of some shops here in the bay area that only do LEO sales, but none that are exclusive to security and LE.

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            • #7
              Arkangel
              Veteran Member
              • May 2010
              • 4458

              Maybe its a new policy, it might make sense to them, they may want those blue label guns going to people who are actively employed in security.
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              (ಠ_ృ) riveting tale, chap.

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              • #8
                eddyk
                Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 373

                Originally posted by DFence
                They may have changed their rules. That place has been crazy busy for awhile now.
                Originally posted by Arkangel
                Maybe its a new policy, it might make sense to them, they may want those blue label guns going to people who are actively employed in security.
                I HOPE NOT!!!

                Well hopefully a law enforcement agency hires me already and I don't have to worry about any of this anymore (Of course that's not even near my main reason I want to be an LEO)
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                • #9
                  send it_hit
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 2454

                  Originally posted by eddyk
                  I HOPE NOT!!!

                  Well hopefully a law enforcement agency hires me already and I don't have to worry about any of this anymore (Of course that's not even near my main reason I want to be an LEO)
                  hang in there man. my brother just graduated from SFPD academy on May 3rd. He's been trying really hard since he was 20... He's 27 now. It might take awhile, but be persistent. It's possible, you just have to want it. Good luck!

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                  • #10
                    eddyk
                    Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 373

                    Originally posted by jacobIDSC
                    hang in there man. my brother just graduated from SFPD academy on May 3rd. He's been trying really hard since he was 20... He's 27 now. It might take awhile, but be persistent. It's possible, you just have to want it. Good luck!
                    Hey thanks brother! that really means a lot. I will stay persistent and do all that I can do. Longer it takes, the longer I have to get into tip-top shape and further my education
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                    • #11
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      Proforce had a 2 hour wait and line out the door for the last 3 months of Police and Sheriffs trying to get in there and buy guns. I am not surprised that they wouldn't do any favors for a "Security Professional" because they were't doing any favors for anybody. No matter how long the line was, the staff move slow as molasses and aren't impressed
                      by anyone's badge/creds/uniform/guard card/tactical hat.

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                      • #12
                        eddyk
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 373

                        Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                        Proforce had a 2 hour wait and line out the door for the last 3 months of Police and Sheriffs trying to get in there and buy guns. I am not surprised that they wouldn't do any favors for a "Security Professional" because they were't doing any favors for anybody. No matter how long the line was, the staff move slow as molasses and aren't impressed
                        by anyone's badge/creds/uniform/guard card/tactical hat.
                        Well at least they finally implemented the number system so you can actually walk around.
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                        • #13
                          winnre
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9214

                          Every time I have been there the store has been dead. I guess I need to go again!
                          "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                          • #14
                            Bobby Ricigliano
                            Mit Gott und Mauser
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 17439

                            Originally posted by winnre
                            Every time I have been there the store has been dead. I guess I need to go again!
                            I have to admit it was worth the wait. On the same day I bought a M&P 15 Sport, a Windham weaponry AR, and a Ruger 10/22 with a couple of BX 25x2 magazines. It was right around 2K out the door for everything. This was in the height of the panic too.

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                            • #15
                              islabaseball
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2065

                              So does anyone have a direct answer on being able to purchase a glock at their advertised prices with guard card?
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