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can anyone tell me why full auto is illegal.i have shot full auto and to me its just a waste of ammo.semi has way more advantages than full.there is the cool factor but thats it.if i shot full auto i would hit nothing.why is it illegal?can any one give dates on when the gov imposed this law and why.id like to convert one of my ars to full auto but it would do nothing for practical proposes.3 round burst seems to be fine.i just want to know why?
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because of the children...
that's why.
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Someone decided that it was big, bad, and scarry... and then used it as a boogyman to get people to surrender their rights.
Scare people enough and they'll beg you to opress them.Comment
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It's cool factor, if you can afford to feed it why not? People have 500hp cars that are capable of alot, but do they really need it? To each his own.sigpicLord, make my hand fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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Feds basically banned full-auto in 1934 with the National Firearms Act. Reasons would include all the bootlegger gangsters of the 30s doing a lot of hits with stuff like hte tommy gun.
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not sure when CA banned the fun stuff. As for modifying your AR-15, can't be done. Even if you could comply with the NFA rules, and CA's rules as well, since 1986, it has been illegal for any civilian to make a new full-auto firearm.Last edited by ke6guj; 05-09-2008, 7:48 PM.Jack
Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?
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sigpicLord, make my hand fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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Last edited by RomanDad; 05-09-2008, 7:51 PM.Life is too short to drive a Ferrari...
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its a way to make sure there is enough ammo to go around for everyone
-bbsigpicNRA Life Endowment Member - CRPA Member
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Ben Franklin, 1759
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I'll tell you why. In the 30's FDR signed the NFA of 1934, which severely limited and started the whole gun control thing. The reason why it was passed was (according to the reading I have done).
a. fear of immigrants or minorities owning firearms.
b. the infamous "St Valentines Day Massacre", who was perpetrated by gangsters caused a big uproar. BTW, these gangsters, would never pay a $200 dollar tax stamp and go to the police station to get finger printed..
They weren't made illegal at this time, just made much more difficult to purchase and own....
wait up now, we're not done yet
In 1968, yet again, the federal government AGAIN placed more restrictions on the importation of certain firearms if they weren't for sporting use (which to me is pure bs, since Miller (court case) stated that military type weapons were ok..hmm) anyways...this was a reaction mainly because of the JFK, Martin Luther King & Robert Kennedy assassinations. BTW, Machine guns were considered non sporting(those that were imported that is)... signed by Lyndon Johnson, a Texan A TEXAN!
lastly in 1986 yet again another D, added an amendment to the FOPA (Firearm Owners Protetion Act
) that banned any new machine guns. This was basically the nail in the coffin.
I will vote for a donkey-sex maniac if he's pro-gun.
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To convert you AR to a " M16 " you would have to find a registered sear. A sear that was registered with the ATF prior to May 1986. Any sears after that date were for Government, military & LEO.
Since the sears which are available for civilians are limited, you are going to pay lots of $$$$
Example:
To purchase a registered full auto sear..you are going to pay aprox these prices
Mac10 4k
UZI 7k
M16 12k
Hk 12.5 - 15k
If you can afford one...The other problem you will have is they are ILLEGAL IN CA.
Aprox 32 states allow full auto.. and about 2/3 rds of those allow supressors. ( aprox )sigpicComment
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I guess one could try to put an illegal configuration to bypass the law or buy a illegal full auto rifle/handgun at their own risk or try bump firing. But maybe a post Heller case could change the laws on full auto weapons? What i would do for a full auto ak47 with a drum mag...."Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
Originally posted by forumguyOriginally posted by bwieseComment
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The above does not constitute legal advice. I am not your lawyer.
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Illegal full auto = 10 years ( minimum )
Since I've been in AZ for the past 2.5 yrs. I have met SO many people with some amazing FA collections.
Everyone but me has a machine gun & silencer
My biggest obsticle is my wife...I'm trying to convince her that it would be an investment.sigpicComment
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Because after prohibition ended, the treasury department found itself with a bunch of agents who no longer had a mission.
They created a boogeyman in the evil fully-automatic weapon that "all the gangsters" were using and siced the treasury agents on full-auto guns.
Heaven forbid the government eliminate any jobs.
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