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  • SirGlockALott
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    • Sep 2007
    • 234

    Springfield M1 Garand

    I was told by a sales person at a gun shop, that the Springfield M1 Garand was not made to shoot modern (hoter) heavier loads over 155 grains. Wondering if this is true? If I were to, will my weapon go BOOM?
    Last edited by SirGlockALott; 04-28-2013, 10:51 PM.
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    Eljay
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4985

    Different people have different amounts of risk they're willing to run, but it's safest to avoid any ammo not specifically marked as for the Garand. If you run anything hotter it won't blow up or anything but you run the risk of bending your op rod which is an expensive part. There are various replacements to the gas plug that will allow you to use commercial ammo if you have the urge.

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      Eljay
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4985

      Oh, and for more detail: http://www.garandgear.com/component/...your-m1-garand

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      • #4
        SirGlockALott
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 234

        Thanks for the info.

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        • #5
          bob_e95482
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 1202

          There is still M2 ball out there, and it's probably still cheaper than commercial.

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          • #6
            Orlando
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1827

            A Garand will not Blow Up as the action is very strong but you run the risk of bending op rods or possibly cracking the reciver heel. The bolt hits the reciver heel when cycling, when using ammo that is not M2Ball equivilant it will hit the reciver at a accelerated rate which over time will cause metal fatigue and possibly crack the receiver heel.
            No matter what the Garand Gear web site says personally I would not shoot non M2ball equivilant ammo ina Garand.
            Who is to say that the ammo they tested will be the same tomorrow as when they tested it. Manufactures may change their recipes at any time.
            Yes you will have people dsay how they have shot many rds of commercial ammo and never had any isssue
            Metal fatigue does not happen over night , it is accumalative . Who knows how much stress has already been put on our old war horses. You may be able to shoot hundreds of rds of commercial ammo with no problems or it may happen on the very first rd. Do ya feel lucky?
            If you must run commercial ammo I strongly suggest installing a "adjustable" gas screw . This will let you safetly fire off the shelf commercial ammo
            Best thing you can do to keep your Garand running smooth and reduce stress is keep it properly lubed with grease, install a new Op Rod spring and run on a diet of M2ball or equivilant ammo.
            JMO yours may vary

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            • #7
              russ69
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 9348

              Originally posted by SirGlockALott
              I was told by a sales person at a gun shop, that the Springfield M1 Garand was not made to shoot modern (hoter) heavier loads over 155 grains. Wondering if this is true? If I were to, will my weapon go BOOM?
              The standard target load is with a 168 grain bullet that duplicates the military match 172 grain load. Handloading the Garand is the best option.
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              • #8
                Steve_In_29
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 5682

                I installed an adjustable gas plug in my Garand (H&R) and can shoot anything I like now.

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                • #9
                  JDay
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by SirGlockALott
                  I was told by a sales person at a gun shop, that the Springfield M1 Garand was not made to shoot modern (hoter) heavier loads over 155 grains. Wondering if this is true? If I were to, will my weapon go BOOM?
                  It's not the bullet weight, it's the powder load.

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                  • #10
                    koehn,jim
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 643

                    I agree with those that say m2 ball or similar. Personally I shoot cast in mine for about 19 cents a shot.

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                    • #11
                      Steve_In_29
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 5682

                      Originally posted by JDay
                      It's not the bullet weight, it's the powder load.
                      Yes as even the 160 grain hunting loads are moving out faster then the mil spec 147gr FMJ stuff.

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                      • #12
                        ShooterDK
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 11973

                        Schuster gas plug.
                        Dave

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                        • #13
                          ditchdigger
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 976

                          CMP Greek ammo works fine

                          Hornady has Garand safe ammo and I think they are using 168's.

                          I reload for mine and I use 168's for 200 and 300 and 175's for 600 yards.

                          The powder has to be the right burn rate. IMR4895 and IMR4064 are good to go. There are a few others that work for the Garand but I would have to look them up.

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                          • #14
                            SunkenShadow
                            Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 267

                            It's not so much the 'bullet' but the powder loads in new factory ammo. They burn i think a lot slower than the old powder which makes it very hot for the garand. As others have said before, load for it, I do and Im using H4895 and another one i can't remember off the top of my head. There's alot of recipes for the more 'modern' powders but you'd have to do some research. Try looking for the NRA recipe list or Mr Po's.
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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by ditchdigger
                              CMP Greek ammo works fine.
                              And it's only $110 for 200 delivered to your door. M1s are hard on brass and the commercial stuff won't last through many reloadings. IMR 4064 and IMR 4895 is best for reloads - not too fast or slow.

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