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  • #16
    Doghouse_Riley
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 519

    Dry fire practice is your friend.

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    • #17
      jakejake527
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 1078

      I saved the best for last....

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      • #18
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        Originally posted by jakejake527
        Where can I get some free advice from a lawyer? They're pricey and I assume not may will offer free advice even if it only takes 15 seconds to answer a question

        Also, can someone be considered a threat to cause great bodily injury or death if they don't have a weapon in their hands? Even if they are only 4'10" and 80 lbs and looks like they're only 13 years old?
        Shoot an unarmed 13 year old boy to death and you will do time in prison. Don't get trigger happy. Killing someone as you describe can only hurt our Gun Rights. Try not to 'Mall Ninja' your life.

        No one is going to break into your apartment and steal your toaster.
        May the Bridges I burn light the way.

        Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

        Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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        • #19
          adchrome
          Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 198

          Get the book, how to own a gun and stay out of jail

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          • #20
            alfred1222
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2010
            • 7331

            Originally posted by jakejake527
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            Situation 1:

            I have my gun drawn and pointed at a bad guy inside my house. I tell the bad guy to get out. I see he doesn't have any weapon in his hands. He starts walking towards me. At what point or distance can I shoot him? What if he starts running towards me? What if he turns him back towards me but starts walking backwards towards me?
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            . is the bad guy a threat?? I would suppose that any individual who breaks into your house, sees you with a gun pointed at them, and than instead of running away when ordered moves AT you, I say credible threat, shoot until the threat is gone.
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            Situation 2:

            What if the bad guy has a crow bar in his hands or any other tools or maybe even a knife, which he might have used to open the door/window. There's a chance he can throw it and injure me. At what point or distance can I shoot him. BG with a weapon in a confined space is a threat to you and your family. No warnings, shoot.
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            Situation 3:

            What if the bad guy doesn't have any weapons or tools in his hands. Then he grabs an expensive watch in the counter or any other items I own (value doesn't matter). He starts walking towards the door to leave. Am I allowed to shoot him even after I warn him to leave the item(s) behind? Am I supposed to just let him get away with my stuff? it's stuff, not your life. Let the BG go, DO NOT shoot him in the back because he took your stuff. Insurance will cover it all. In addition, keep all valuables in a safe.
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            Situation 4:

            What if the bad guy in the living room without a weapon or any tools in his hands. My wife and kid are in the kitchen stunned and too scared to move. I'm one side of the living room with my gun draw and pointed at him telling him to get out. Then he starts walking towards my wife and kid at the kitchen. At what point or distance can I shoot him? that's a threat to your family, basically, as i understand the law, you can shoot to defend yourself or others when you fear that they are at risk of grevious bodily harm or death. You cannot shoot to defend property. In this scenario, i would have dropped the guy as soon as he took a step toward family. You're armed, theyre not, stop the threat.
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            Thanks for your help

            Originally posted by jakejake527
            What if I shoot him on the leg? As a warning. I'm thinking a gun doesn't have to be used to kill but to injure....
            You don't shoot to wound, you don't shoot to kill, you shoot to end the threat. With that said, if youre in fear of your life, why would you take the time to aim for the leg? You do that, you will go to jail. Aim center mass and pray that god keeps your aim steady.

            DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer or a law enforcement professional. ALL advice given is purely hypothetical and if anyone chooses to listen to it, I am not responsible for their actions. In a real situation I would probably throw up on myelf, poop on my attacker, and than cry to myself while shouting for Obama to save me.
            Originally posted by Kestryll
            This guy is a complete and total idiot.
            /thread.

            ΦΑ

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            • #21
              Supertac916
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 2423

              Originally posted by adchrome
              Get the book, how to own a gun and stay out of jail
              http://www.gunlawpress.com/
              Great book to read. I also believe the NRA has video's with scenarios and discussions on Self Defense with attorney's discussing the legality.

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              • #22
                adchrome
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 198

                Lawyer told me if you shoot to wound and he loses limbs/loses ability in an arm or a leg its gonna cost you huge in civil court

                99% of the time if the perp hears you pump one in the chamber he is out of there

                if at all possible get 911 on the phone asap and have them hear you tell the person you are armed and Police are on the way

                don't shoot in the dark, get a light and use quick bursts of light to identify the subject

                Run drills with your family for different scenarios
                Last edited by adchrome; 04-23-2013, 10:21 AM.

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                • #23
                  ElDub1950
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 5688

                  IMHO the answer is always 'at the point you are reasonably in fear for your, or your family's life'. There is no distance requirement. The only requirement is that any reasonable person would agree with you.

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                  • #24
                    sfbay
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1646

                    Originally posted by jakejake527
                    I saved the best for last....


                    +1

                    big hugs!
                    You get what you get and you don't get upset !

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                    • #25
                      jakejake527
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1078

                      Thanks everyone.....You guys give really good insight

                      Feel free to add more opinions....

                      Greatly appreciated

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                      • #26
                        berto
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7723

                        Read the penal code. Read the jury instructions. Read the book mentioned above. Read it all again and make sure you understand it.

                        To answer your questions maybe, maybe, no, maybe.
                        "There are no outdoor sports as graceful as throwing stones at a dictatorship." Ai WeiWei

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                        • #27
                          cmichini
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1739

                          Guys, why do you insist on feeding the troll.

                          shoot to wound? Oh, you mean assault with a deadly weapon.
                          NRA Certified Rifle Instructor
                          NRA Certified Range Safety Officer

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                          • #28
                            NytWolf
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 3935

                            Originally posted by ElDub1950
                            IMHO the answer is always 'at the point you are reasonably in fear for your, or your family's life'. There is no distance requirement. The only requirement is that any reasonable person would agree with you.
                            This is the most valid answer.

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                            • #29
                              paul0660
                              In Memoriam
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 15669

                              Please do not send me a link to penal codes
                              Ok troll, don't read the below:


                              198.5. Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or
                              great bodily injury within his or her residence shall be presumed to
                              have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great
                              bodily injury to self, family, or a member of the household when that
                              force is used against another person, not a member of the family or
                              household, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and
                              forcibly entered the residence and the person using the force knew or
                              had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.
                              As used in this section, great bodily injury means a significant
                              or substantial physical injury.
                              Do you need more explanation?
                              *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                              • #30
                                emsalex
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 550

                                Originally posted by adchrome
                                Lawyer told me if you shoot to wound and he loses limbs/loses ability in an arm or a leg its gonna cost you huge in civil court

                                99% of the time if the perp hears you pump one in the chamber he is out of there

                                if at all possible get 911 on the phone asap and have them hear you tell the person you are armed and Police are on the way

                                don't shoot in the dark, get a light and use quick bursts of light to identify the subject

                                Run drills with your family for different scenarios
                                I would love to see those numbers.
                                Originally posted by rickey65
                                No money is fine but perhaps he may learn how fast he will forget not to engage in fraudulent activities with good people.

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