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  • dan408
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 92

    80% ar frame

    My friend have cnc machine, does he need license to make 80% are or 1911 frame.
    Thanks

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  • #2
    Mr.Sandman
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 557

    No, but he does need to get a BATF declaration/approval letter that verifies what he is making is 80% or less and is not legally a firearm.

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    • #3
      chillincody
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2675

      Originally posted by Mr.Sandman
      No, but he does need to get a BATF declaration/approval letter that verifies what he is making is 80% or less and is not legally a firearm.
      this
      Last edited by chillincody; 04-13-2013, 8:39 PM.
      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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      • #4
        dan408
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 92

        Thanks for the infos gentlemen

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        • #5
          chillincody
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2675

          Originally posted by dan408
          Thanks for the infos gentlemen

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          also its not required by law(that I know of ) but it helps ease buyers minds knowing they are not illegally buying a gun

          and will protect your friend from the ATF if one day they get their hands in one of your friends 80% and deem it not a 80 but a firearm your friend would be in a sheet load of trouble
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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          • #6
            Jet Setter
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2012
            • 5348

            Agree with the above. The BATF letter is a huge help. I won't buy one without it. Not worth the risk as a buyer or seller.
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            • #7
              jfifer
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 3205

              Are you sure youre not asking if he needs a license to "finish?"

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              • #8
                Agent 0range
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1040

                Originally posted by fiferronald
                Are you sure youre not asking if he needs a license to "finish?"
                That was my first thought too.
                Originally posted by Mezcalfud
                Because a Glock looks great in the case and then when you take it home it feels like you're holding a Costco pack of Kielbasa.

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                • #9
                  norcal_patriot
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1006

                  Originally posted by fiferronald
                  Are you sure youre not asking if he needs a license to "finish?"
                  I bet that's what he means.

                  And the answer I think is NO, but I'm not sure! Or else build parties would be held by FFLs

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                  • #10
                    dan408
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 92

                    No he just ask me about making 80% lower and frame. I don't know if he want to do "the finish".

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                    • #11
                      dieselpower
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 11471

                      A letter is most certainly needed for anyone wanting to start a business producing items they KNOW will become firearms. Legal protection, while voluntary, is needed.

                      The business owner simply submits a sample to the BATFE for inspection/review. What they say goes.

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                      • #12
                        Yugo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 8359

                        personal use=NO
                        for resale to the public=YES
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                        Originally posted by WAMO556
                        Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                        Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                        Umm yeah!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          dan408
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 92

                          he wants to start a business, thanks for all the helps.

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