AK 74 side folder legality question

[seldomwright]

Hey guys, legality question. I have an extended muzzle brake for 30" overall length when folded on my AK 74, must this brake be actually tack welded on and permanent? Or is the spring loaded retaining pin that holds the threaded device on sufficient? I assume the answer is that it must be permanent, thus welded. Thoughts?

And if I must permanently attach it, should it be brazed (low heat) or is a small tack from a mig welder advisable? I realize mig welds are messy, but I'm confident I could get a clean tack on the underside.

Thanks for reading.

[SJgunguy24]

There is no permenance required for whatever you use to make the 30". You could even attach a bayonet.
This is a state law, the only time anything needs to be permenently attached is when you need to get the barrel length over 16" to meet federal law.

[chillincody]

Hey guys, legality question. I have an extended muzzle brake for 30" overall length when folded on my AK 74, must this brake be actually tack welded on and permanent? Or is the spring loaded retaining pin that holds the threaded device on sufficient? I assume the answer is that it must be permanent, thus welded. Thoughts?

And if I must permanently attach it, should it be brazed (low heat) or is a small tack from a mig welder advisable? I realize mig welds are messy, but I'm confident I could get a clean tack on the underside.

Thanks for reading.

yes pin and weld ( high heat solider.braze ) the muzzle brake to make it perm to meet the OAL or youll be in possesion of a SBR IIRC

[SJgunguy24]

yes pin and weld ( high heat solider.braze ) the muzzle brake to make it perm to meet the OAL or youll be in possesion of a SBR IIRC

Please do your research before giving advice. This is wrong.

[chillincody]

Please do your research before giving advice. This is wrong.

it doesnt say in the law that it does or doesnt need to be permanet but it says in SHORTEST firing position for OAL measurement so stock folded and muzzle device removed it would be in its shortest firing position and not meeting the OAL

it would be to easy for that muzzle device to get unscrewed from barrel and to go missing between the time your arrested and the time it hits evidence


play stupid games win stupid prizes .........

[SJgunguy24]

it doesnt say in the law that it does or doesnt need to be permanet but it says in SHORTEST firing position for OAL measurement so stock folded and muzzle device removed it would be in its shortest firing position and not meeting the OAL

it would be to easy for that muzzle device to get unscrewed from barrel and to go missing between the time your arrested and the time it hits evidence


play stupid games win stupid prizes .........

Legal lesson,
The law states what is illegal. Everything else is therefore legal. There is nothing in the penal code stating anything needs to be permenently attached to meet overall length. Posting that what you did is false. Jsut because a cop might not like it doesn't make it illegal.
Now what is the lowest melting temp for silver solder to be considered permenently attached and who came up with that ruling?
I've been building professionally for a couple of years now and I have to know all of the regulations, federal and state. Some work even has to be performed in steps so I don't run afoul of state law even though the feds don't care.

1200f

[SilverTauron]

Legal lesson,
The law states what is illegal. Everything else is therefore legal. There is nothing in the penal code stating anything needs to be permenently attached to meet overall length. Posting that what you did is false. Jsut because a cop might not like it doesn't make it illegal.

There's a saying in the Chicago Police Force. What counts is not what happened, but whats on paper.

In plain English: if a crooked cop unscrews a flash hider so as to nail a "gun collar", you're hosed. Its your word versus an army of police officers and the official report.

[chillincody]

Legal lesson,
The law states what is illegal. Everything else is therefore legal. There is nothing in the penal code stating anything needs to be permenently attached to meet overall length. Posting that what you did is false. Jsut because a cop might not like it doesn't make it illegal.
Now what is the lowest melting temp for silver solder to be considered permenently attached and who came up with that ruling?
I've been building professionally for a couple of years now and I have to know all of the regulations, federal and state. Some work even has to be performed in steps so I don't run afoul of state law even though the feds don't care.

1200f

what I posted clearly was just my opinion I never claimed it was the law .........

There's a saying in the Chicago Police Force. What counts is not what happened, but whats on paper.

In plain English: if a crooked cop unscrews a flash hider so as to nail a "gun collar", you're hosed. Its your word versus an army of police officers and the official report.

Exactly

[seldomwright]

Thanks for the input guys, didn't mean to start a little war. SJgunguy24 you're for sure right about the letter of the law, thanks for clarifying it for me. chillincody I might be more inclined as you are to tack weld it just to cover my ***. I'm kind of on the fence actually. Either way, thanks for your time and thoughts.