There is no shortage...

[Dutch3]

Some of the oddball stuff is available, but then, its oddball stuff, so who cares.

Perfect excuse to buy some oddball guns.

[therealnickb]

I find it ironic that the very people wailing about "price gouging" are the ones who picked the government which triggered the shortage to begin with.

Ironic is the correct word indeed.

[AR23C]

I AGREE..LAST GUN SHOW MOST DEALERS HAD ALOT OF INVENTORY ON AMMO & MAGS BUT NOBODY WAS BUYING ..AND THOSE DEALERS LOOK WORRIED AND PISTOFF ...AS FOR THE WALMART CROWD OF AMMO SCAVENGERS ..THEY CAN KISS MY *SS !!I PLANNED AHEAD..

[Stewdabaker23]

Cabela's in Sidney, Nebraska is well stocked. I just stopped by on my way home from a business trip and they have 762 NATO 50 rd boxes for $40. Tons of cci mini mags 100 rd for $9 but only allowed to buy one box...LOL. They also have handguns galore. Wished I lived out here. They also have all the ar 30rd mags you want. So if your in the neighborhood stop by

[SteveMartin]

Cabela's in Sidney, Nebraska is well stocked. I just stopped by on my way home from a business trip and they have 762 NATO 50 rd boxes for $40. Tons of cci mini mags 100 rd for $9 but only allowed to buy one box...LOL. They also have handguns galore. Wished I lived out here. They also have all the ar 30rd mags you want. So if your in the neighborhood stop by

Now I need to go see Carhenge again!

[TonyNorCal]

So let me ask this...

If you owned something (certain car, house, etc), and the market was currently commanding a much higher than normal price for that item, would you sell it for less?

Would it matter what the reason was? Silly consumers? Other?

I personally haven't bought anything hat is priced higher than normal during this panic. I don't waste my money and I am not influenced by "panic". But, for those folks who are so easily manipulated, well, if they willing choose to pay, then the seller would be a fool to take less.

[desertexplore]

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[elSquid]

Domestic ammo production - 22, pistol, rifle, shotshell - is around 10 billion rounds a year. With 320 million people in this country, that comes out to 30 rounds per person. Now, obviously everyone in the country isn't active in the shooting sports...but OTOH, the guy that shoots 100 clays every two weeks will use 2600 shells/yr, or about "90 persons worth of ammo." Similarly, the gun that shoots 250/rnds of handgun a month will use 3 cases/yr, or "100 persons worth".

If 1% of Americans suddenly decide that they need to buy a case of ammo that they wouldn't otherwise have bought, that's 3.2 billion rounds of new demand.

The annual production of AR pattern rifles is about 500,000/yr. ( Excluding lowers. ) If 1 percent of people in this country suddenly want to buy an AR that they would not have otherwise have purchased, you then have around 3 million people chasing 500,000 rifles...and prices rise accordingly.

The conclusion: it doesn't take much for demand to outstrip supply in the firearms sector, and most companies don't have the ability to radically ramp up production to meet a temporary surge.

-- Michael

[SonofWWIIDI]

IMHO, most of the run on ammo supplies (and all products related to firearms) is caused by those who did not plan ahead. Those who bought a box or two at the range before the threat of laws that limit the amount that one can buy, and the possibility that taxes may go sky high on an already consumable supply are the problem.

They are now stocking up (like many did before the panic, when prices were reasonable) and causing those of us who have our own, but buy a few boxes at the range to keep our stock, to use up what we have. Thus the price continues to stay at the higher levels, generating more in sales tax, more in income for the firearms/ammo companies and thus more taxes for the the government.

It's all about power to control the people through the control of tax dollars. Think about it. Sales of all products related to firearms have increased dramatically. As have prices, and that taxation is now funding the same people (read politicians) who want to take away our rights and control "inferior sheeple". In order to further their own political and personal agendas.

[Fjold]

You can't fix stupid.

If people ar stupid enough to pay high prices for ammunition who are we to tell them that they shouldn't.

[rmfromdtown]

Honestly it has just gotten ridiculous...not to mention expensive...And sorry to say it but I think there is a shortage...Even at guns shows it runs out in a matter of minutes.

[dustoff31]

I find it ironic that the very people wailing about "price gouging" are the ones who picked the government which triggered the shortage to begin with.

Precisely. Neither I nor anyone in my circle of friends are experiencing any of the problems related by many here. But then, we didn't try to fool ourselves as to the true nature and/or intent of TPTB.

[BigPimping]

100% agree.

[maxwellca21]

Christ, did you even read what I said? I'm not railing against profiteering or freedom of enterprise. I'm saying that for capitalism to function properly, we need to be rational consumers.


Glad you got an opportunity to post that jpg you've been saving.

Yes, I read what you wrote and it is a very cool story, bro. On the seriousness, there is no such thing as "rational consumers". It is not every possible for a general mass to be "rational" during the time of chaos.

[therealnickb]

Yes, I read what you wrote and it is a very cool story, bro. On the seriousness, there is no such thing as "rational consumers". It is not every possible for a general mass to be "rational" during the time of chaos.

What about all the "rational" non consumers? Isn't it possible that most of the general "mass" of people who are not buying at this moment represent tha majority?