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  • RMP91
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3659

    Getting used to shooting w/o hearing protection to prepare for LoD scenarios?

    This is a question directed not just at military and law enforcement shooters, but also civilians.

    I know that shooting anything larger than .22 caliber rounds without hearing protection, under any circumstance or for any amount of time is almost guaranteed to end in severe, permanent hearing loss or even flat out 100% deafness in both ears.

    How do you prepare for this, knowing that there may come a time where you'll need to use your weapon in defense of life and/or property and you obviously will not have time (or access to) for hearing protection? We all know that the massive increase in decibels when a weapon is discharged will startle and disorientate anyone, including the shooter (and therefore accuracy and steadiness gets thrown out the window).

    Is it a psychological thing that temporarily protects your hearing when you shoot (as the adrenaline is coursing throughout your body) or is it something that you are able to get used to?

    Yes, I've been shooting for the better part of 5 years and therefore should already know the answer to this question. But considering all of the military combat footage I've seen as well as some police dash-cam shootings, I can't help but wonder how they manage to keep their nerve (and their professionalism) after basically becoming permanently deaf after 2-3 shots? Is it their training?
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    alfred1222
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2010
    • 7331

    I have been shooting with earpro a lot over the past few years, it doesn't affect you as much as you'd think
    Originally posted by Kestryll
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    • #3
      toby
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      • Jan 2010
      • 10576

      ..........

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
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        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Having been in more than a few on duty shootings, adrenalin kicks in and you don't even notice.

        Don't even think about practicing without ear protection.
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        • #5
          six seven tango
          CGSSA Associate
          • Jan 2012
          • 1725

          I was in a concrete bunker in basic training, when the guy next to me opened up with a full auto M-60 before I had had a chance to put my ear plugs in. Yes, it hurt like hell until I got them in, but I suffered no permanent hearing loss/damage.

          Also, like Ron said, I wouldn't even think about practicing without ear protection.
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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12719

            ......WHAT.?????????
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              swruger
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 945

              We didn't use hearing protection shooting and hunting growing up on the farm in the '60s and '70s. Comes in handy though, can't hear a thing wifey says

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              • #8
                njineermike
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2010
                • 9784

                The stupid. It hurts......
                Originally posted by Kestryll
                Dude went full CNN...
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                • #9
                  drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2219

                  Originally posted by swruger
                  We didn't use hearing protection shooting and hunting growing up on the farm in the '60s and '70s. Comes in handy though, can't hear a thing wifey says
                  I refer to that as selective hearing.

                  I grew up in the 60s as well and did a lot of shooting, unprotected. I have the tinnitus now to prove it.
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                  • #10
                    Audredger
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 221

                    WHAT DID HE SAY???!!!
                    shooting without protection harms your hearing even under stress situations even though you don't seem to notice!
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                    • #11
                      SonofWWIIDI
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                      • Nov 2011
                      • 21583

                      Don't practice w/o hearing protection. You're just asking to go deaf if you do.
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                      • #12
                        philobeddoe
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 2022

                        I don't go anywhere without my tactical foam earplugs.
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                        • #13
                          ucsdryder
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 344

                          Cracks me up the questions and scenarios people come up with. Do you really think the sound of a gun going off is going to cause such a distraction when you are shooting at a BG that you will somehow lose some kind of tactical advantage?

                          I have never used a gun for SD but I when shooting a game animal or bird I never feel the recoil or notice the bang.

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                          • #14
                            artoaster
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1220

                            I've always trained with hearing protection. If a scenario presents itself that makes shooting without hearing protection necessary (such as self-defense or a real hunt) then I would allow that adrenaline will be there and my perception of noise would not be primary or a obstacle to shooting.


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                            • #15
                              TAK
                              Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 189

                              You would have to be without ear pro for a long time before it affected you.

                              In the past month I have fired over 4k of 5.56, 3 claymores where I was 20m away behind a berm, 1 grenade, and 2 84mm rockets. I had no earpro in for any of those and I have no hearing damage as of today when I had to take an audio test.
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