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  • kengotit
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 938

    Buying selling compete lower without BB

    I saw a guy at my LGS selling comeplete lower with out a bullet button
    Is this legal? I know the lower is multi caliber and can put .22lr on it

    I was interested but didn't want to get in trouble with DOJ

    Any input is greatly appreciated
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  • #2
    wisefire
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1138

    Nvm
    Last edited by wisefire; 03-19-2013, 1:07 PM.

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    • #3
      SB1964
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 4876

      A lot of FFL's will require a BB. Multi caliber or not. Someone will be along to argue shortly.
      Yes I took the pic, no I didn't go swimming!

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      • #4
        kengotit
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 938

        But I also bought a New Frontier comeplete lower at riflegear shipped to my ffl and it didn't come with BB, no problems completing the dros
        Keep Calm and Carry On

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        • #5
          blkside
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1301

          +1 to kengotit... a friend bought 3 of them. BB count = 0
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          • #6
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Originally posted by wisefire
            Not in legal configuration in it has a pistol grip without bb
            WRONG! A lower without an upper is not a centerfire rifle and AW laws do not apply.

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            • #7
              killmime1234
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1536

              Originally posted by JDay
              WRONG! A lower without an upper is not a centerfire rifle and AW laws do not apply.

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              Correct, but let me add:

              You can even have a pistol grip lower with a centerfire upper as long as it's not semi auto. You could have a bolt action centerfire upper with a standard mag release.

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              • #8
                chillincody
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2675

                Originally posted by JDay
                WRONG! A lower without an upper is not a centerfire rifle and AW laws do not apply.

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                THIS^ it could be for a dedicated 22 or a featureless build neither require a BB and both are 100% legal

                With that said some FFL just dont wanna learn the laws and refuse to do the sale without a BB if thats the case take your biss somewhere else
                Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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                • #9
                  kengotit
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 938

                  thanks for the info calguns fam!
                  Keep Calm and Carry On

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                  • #10
                    dfens
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 942

                    Quick question then if I order a AR with the upper and lower separated in the same box with out a BB and add one later down the road is that legal then?

                    The AR I wanted isn't CA compliant from the factory so I wanted to add a BB as soon as it arrived and then assembled it.

                    Before all this crazy mess every FFL refused to accept a AR in this configuration because the lower had the stock and pistol grip. And the seller didn't want to remove those 2 parts before shipping.

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                    • #11
                      kengotit
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 938

                      Originally posted by dfens
                      Quick question then if I order a AR with the upper and lower separated in the same box with out a BB and add one later down the road is that legal then?

                      The AR I wanted isn't CA compliant from the factory so I wanted to add a BB as soon as it arrived and then assembled it.

                      Before all this crazy mess every FFL refused to accept a AR in this configuration because the lower had the stock and pistol grip. And the seller didn't want to remove those 2 parts before shipping.
                      i say have the seller strip the lower for you, shipped it to your FFL then shipped the NON firearm parts to your home, then once you get the lower build it back with a BB
                      Keep Calm and Carry On

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                      • #12
                        dfens
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 942

                        Unfortunately all the sellers won't strip the lower or remove the pistol grip and stock. They think they will get in trouble for manufacturing when they aren't altering anything just taking apart.

                        What sucks is I would just find other sellers but no one can get the dam thing and in CA it is impossible for a local FFL to get so that's why I have to look out of state so I'm boned no matter what I do.

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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by dfens
                          Unfortunately all the sellers won't strip the lower or remove the pistol grip and stock. They think they will get in trouble for manufacturing when they aren't altering anything just taking apart.

                          What sucks is I would just find other sellers but no one can get the dam thing and in CA it is impossible for a local FFL to get so that's why I have to look out of state so I'm boned no matter what I do.
                          Have it shipped to an intermediary FFL who will make it compliant before shipping it to your FFL in California.

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                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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