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  • ideled
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 6

    Loose Bullets

    I'm somewhat of a beginner to reloading ammo. I have reloaded and successfully shot a little over 300 rounds. I just bought some new bullets (158 gr 38 spl lead cast) and reloaded about 50 rounds and I noticed that some of the rounds have a loose bullet. I was able to spin and push down the bullet in its case by using some finger pressure.

    Before I redo some of the rounds that have a loose bullet, would it be unsafe to shot those rounds the way they are now? The bullets are not entirely loose, for the most part I have to use some finger pressure to either spin or push down the bullet. My main concern is if this is unsafe for myself or my gun. I would hate to get hurt or damage my gun simply because I didn't take the time and redo those cartridges.
  • #2
    OCD41911
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 300

    No it's not safe to shoot them. Figure out seating/crimping those "new" bullets on empty cases first, before priming and charging.

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    • #3
      MrPlutonium
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 503

      If you load them the way they are into a cylinder, the bullets will walk out as you're firing and lock it up. Readjust your sizing die and give it a good crimp after seating.

      You're either not resizing them correctly or belling the case mouth too much before seating the bullet.

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      • #4
        Divernhunter
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 8753

        Need more crimp and this should be in the ammo/reloading section.

        You know that is the place where all othe other newbies post for sale their overpriced stuff instead of in the MARKET section where it belongs.
        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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        • #5
          Fishslayer
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2010
          • 13035

          If the bullet is spinning it's because you have no case tension. Crimp is not the fix.
          "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
          You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
          You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


          Originally Posted by JackRydden224
          I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
          Originally posted by redcliff
          A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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          • #6
            russ69
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 9348

            Measure the diameter of the bullets, they should be .357 for 38 special. Are you fully resizing, all the way to the shellholder?
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            • #7
              Fishslayer
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2010
              • 13035

              Originally posted by russ69
              Measure the diameter of the bullets, they should be .357 for 38 special. Are you fully resizing, all the way to the shellholder?
              Actually .358 for most cast lead.

              x2 on the sizing.

              Check for split case?
              "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
              You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
              You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


              Originally Posted by JackRydden224
              I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
              Originally posted by redcliff
              A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57195

                Excessive crimp will sometimes loosen up the fit of the bullet.
                Check the bullet after seating the bullet, but before crimping it and see if those are tight in the case.
                If so, then excessive crimp is a possibility.
                Randall Rausch

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                • #9
                  rabidmonk
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 314

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Excessive crimp will sometimes loosen up the fit of the bullet.
                  Check the bullet after seating the bullet, but before crimping it and see if those are tight in the case.
                  If so, then excessive crimp is a possibility.
                  Was going to chime in with this. I did this myself when I started reloading. Best to break those rounds back down and not shoot them.

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                  • #10
                    ideled
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 6

                    Thanks guys for all the posts. I fixed the problem by simply crimping it. Turns out I was never properly crimping the cartridge. I found this out after reading the Lee instructions line by line for the crimp die.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57195

                      Originally posted by ideled
                      Thanks guys for all the posts. I fixed the problem by simply crimping it. Turns out I was never properly crimping the cartridge. I found this out after reading the Lee instructions line by line for the crimp die.
                      If you were NOT crimping, you have bigger problems.
                      The bullets should NOT have been loose enough to turn before they were crimped.

                      Start over with ALL your die setups and see what is going on.
                      Perhaps you are using a crimp die that sizes the case after you seat a bullet and that is squeezing the bullet undersized right in the case.
                      Perhaps your expander is too large for your bullets.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                      • #12
                        SPUTTER
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 7504

                        When in doubt, read the instructions!!!

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                        • #13
                          ideled
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 6

                          I went ahead and re-crimped all the cartridges that I have made. After I did that, the bullets were locked in tight. I am not going to go through all of the reloaded cartridges with all of the dies, I have shot a little over 300 rounds with my current setup without any issues. Thanks again guys for all the posts.

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                          • #14
                            ideled
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 6

                            Hey Sputter, a real man doesn't read instructions.

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                            • #15
                              rabidmonk
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 314

                              Originally posted by ideled
                              I went ahead and re-crimped all the cartridges that I have made. After I did that, the bullets were locked in tight. I am not going to go through all of the reloaded cartridges with all of the dies, I have shot a little over 300 rounds with my current setup without any issues. Thanks again guys for all the posts.
                              I'll never understand why someone would come here and ask for help, then ignore the advice given. Is your safety really not worth the time it would take to pull the bullet off the case and check from start to finish when you've identified a problem?

                              This is how people get hurt with reloads, and how guns go kaboom!

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