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  • #16
    Zymergist
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 262

    I am not the best writer from a blank page, but I am decent with bridging communications from what one person is saying to what another needs to hear to understand. I will give a quick crack at adding some ideas to what has been proposed. Has anyone tapped Hoffmang at all on this?

    I do think it is important to start off with a hook that grabs attention without revealing the intent right off the bat.

    Also a full long video that can be reedited into shorter clips just like big $$$ commercial campaigns might be an idea....
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    a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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    • #17
      Mullins
      Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 312

      PM replied to

      Update:Magazine ban video script is being refined, still looking for to get another script that would playout like the demand a plan anti video.
      • I hope to start out with the names of those who have been saved by firearms.(I found a bunch on.http://gunssavelives.net/
      • (Followed by)How many more unreasonable laws are we going to let them pass? How many more people are we going to let be victimized? ect
      • When will they understand that the more of us have firearms (people holding firearms) the safer our streets, our homes, and our school will become.
      • Help us get rid of these un american laws that do nothing but help criminals disarm the people.
      Just a rough list and I hope it inspires other to think of a script.

      Originally posted by FastFinger
      it's very difficult to produce one that will get any attention outside of our choir.
      This is why I hope to get some ad space as well as send it out threw mass media.

      Originally posted by FastFinger
      "everyone deliver a snippet of the scrip trick" is old, tired, and won't do the job.
      I am not asking for this, I hope that other can read what is posted here get inspired and send me something that I may use or turn into a working script.

      Originally posted by FastFinger
      Although one way that this type could break out and prove worthwhile would be by having some celebrities involved.
      I would rather it be done by us normal people to show that we are neighbors, Co-workers, Friends, average Americans.

      Originally posted by FastFinger
      Of course there are other video formats that probably have a better chance of breaking out, but for a video to do so it would need some "wow" factor. Humor, outrageous, a unique surprise - in other words something very clever and creative. It can be super simple to produce - but it needs to be special - and that's difficult to plan and pull off.
      Anytime the general public gets to see firearms in a good light will be good. If you can help bring in that "wow" factor please do so.
      We are trying to help in a creative way other than the usual donate, tell a friend, bring people to the range and would like to see some more support.

      FastFinger I mean no offence when picking apart your post.

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      • #18
        Mullins
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 312

        Originally posted by Zymergist
        I am not the best writer from a blank page, but I am decent with bridging communications from what one person is saying to what another needs to hear to understand. I will give a quick crack at adding some ideas to what has been proposed.
        If you could try your hand at a script that would be great!

        Originally posted by Zymergist
        Has anyone tapped Hoffmang at all on this?
        I have not but Will send him a PM to checkout the thread.

        Originally posted by Zymergist
        Also a full long video that can be reedited into shorter clips just like big $$$ commercial campaigns might be an idea....
        I like this idea and wouldn't mind doing extra editing work.

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        • #19
          Zymergist
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 262

          Ok, My edit turned into a different direction. Forgive the typecasting, but I believe it will have more impact. I would also suggest adding some union dressed workers without display of specific union identifying logos. This one would be an emotional tweak video (fight fire with fire)

          Let me know what you think:

          I love my family (Mother with children, minority preferred)
          I worry about their safety (non threatening different minority Male)
          Are we safe? (Repeated rapidly a few times and tiled with different types saying the same things)

          I am under attack
          We are under attack
          YOU are under attack.
          (mix the above up with repeats and gender ethnic differences)
          Do you care?

          Maybe you didn’t realize it
          All of our civil rights are under attack
          Your civil rights are under attack
          You and I are being attacked.
          Do you care?

          We have
          a Bill of Rights
          for all citizens,
          all citizens
          all citizens
          to protect us

          Some groups today
          delude themselves
          and others
          into believing
          they know
          a better way
          to protect us

          But this
          “Better Way”
          Ignores what
          This country
          This GREAT country
          Is built on
          And tears apart
          Our bill of rights

          Those we elected
          We put trust in
          Have power
          To act for us
          But how
          Are they using
          That power?

          They want
          To control
          Control
          Control Crime
          Control Violence
          Control Safety
          Control us (repeated)

          We all
          All (repeated rapidly)
          want an end
          to senseless violence
          But going after
          Those who follow the law
          Going after
          Out bill of rights
          Taking away
          Self defense
          Will never
          Stop violence
          Only
          Increase control

          Demand action (repeated)
          Protect our rights
          Our bill of rights
          Demand action
          Stop control
          Law abiding citizen control

          What they call
          “Gun control”
          Is just
          Control (Repeated)
          Of me (repeated, different genders and ethnicities)
          Of you
          Of us (tiled montage)

          Sandy hook Connecticut
          Aurora Colorado
          Oak Creek Wisconsin
          And the list goes on
          Would not be stopped
          Not be stopped
          By control
          Citizen control
          Proposed as
          Gun control
          All these tragedies
          Senseless tragedies
          Have one thing
          One thing
          In common
          Gun control
          Citizen control
          Gun control
          Guns for defense
          My defense (repeated)
          Were not allowed
          Not allowed

          Demand action (repeated)
          Protect our rights
          Our bill of rights
          Demand action
          Stop control
          Law abiding citizen control

          Protect Them (same mother with children from first shot)
          Protect Me (repeated)
          Protect all of us (montage)
          Protect our rights
          Our bill of rights
          Protect all of us (little girl)

          scrolling Text:
          There are over XXXX bills proposed at the state and federal level that seek to control the people of this great country and violate your rights, your constitutional rights.
          Protect your rights.
          protect our country.
          Protect us all.
          Demand action.
          Stop all "gun" control legislation.
          zymurgy:
          a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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          • #20
            Zymergist
            Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 262

            The above uses sales and marketing psychology. Grab someones attention then get them to start identifying and agreeing. Once someone has started agreeing it is far less likely that they will disagree, especially if you give them more things to agree with as you add the sales hook.
            zymurgy:
            a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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            • #21
              Mullins
              Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 312

              Originally posted by Zymergist
              The above uses sales and marketing psychology. Grab someones attention then get them to start identifying and agreeing. Once someone has started agreeing it is far less likely that they will disagree, especially if you give them more things to agree with as you add the sales hook.
              The "above" is just what I was looking for!

              If you don't mind I would like to start having everyone record with it.
              I wouldn't mind a word or two being change but who am I to be picky

              (There are over 114 bills proposed in 2013 at the state and federal level that seek to control the people of this great country and violate your rights, your constitutional rights.)

              114 just from Jan1-Jan15 still looking for a more exact number.
              Last edited by Mullins; 03-09-2013, 8:35 PM.

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              • #22
                Zymergist
                Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 262

                Glad you like it, feel free to use and modify as needed. It probably needs to be polished a bit and have the number of bills looked up. I figure the more of the ACLU demographic visual types that can be used the better to reach those we need to (sucks, but realistic I think)
                zymurgy:
                a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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                • #23
                  Zymergist
                  Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 262

                  Pinging Penny's Dad would probably not be a bad idea to round people up for this and reaching out to the Ladies forum here as well. Me being a potentially intimidating stocky bald guy would probably not be a great one for this....
                  zymurgy:
                  a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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                  • #24
                    Mullins
                    Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 312

                    Originally posted by Zymergist
                    Glad you like it, feel free to use and modify as needed. It probably needs to be polished a bit and have the number of bills looked up. I figure the more of the ACLU demographic visual types that can be used the better to reach those we need to (sucks, but realistic I think)
                    Thank you for doing the hardiest part. (imo) As to the bold I agree that they are some of the votes we will need to win over.
                    I will post the final copy late tomorrow for everyone to review.(Need time to look into a few things)

                    (Edit:Remind me to buy you a beer)
                    Last edited by Mullins; 03-09-2013, 9:00 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Zymergist
                      Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 262

                      I am also thinking this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnff0...ature=youtu.be could be cut up a bit and edited with a few insertions to flip it a full 180..... Not sure it would be covered under satirical fair use or not so it may need legal backing to so so. Now if we could get a pro 2A celeb like Bruce Willis to do the insert clips......
                      zymurgy:
                      a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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                      • #26
                        MattyB
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 350

                        Ill do a few takes tomorrow and send it in so we can get this going.

                        The only part of the script I dont like is the DELUDE part. Sounds uppity. Maybe use FOOL THEMSELVES instead. Means the same thing and doesnt require an 8th grade education to know the meaning.

                        Otherwise I think we got a winner.

                        Lets get this rollin!

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                        • #27
                          Zymergist
                          Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 262

                          Another idea, this would be a more commercially produced style than grassroots. Voices over visuals, scrolling facts and statistics could be used as well.

                          (Intro with flag)
                          (Rich male voice, James Earl Jones would be perfect….) We were all shocked and heartbroken at the atrocities of Sandy Hook (fading to shot of the the school)
                          That a sick individual could walk into a school and snuff out precious lives before anyone was able to respond is horrible.
                          (Female voice) Lives were shattered and families torn apart. The whole nation felt the grief caused by a madman.
                          (Different male voice) We all feel the violation of our safety, that this could happen in our schools, our theaters, and our houses of worship, that we could not stop it. (fading to shots of the police at the school)
                          (Female voice) We need to act. (Repeated by different male and female voices)
                          We need responsibility.
                          We can’t stop what has already happened, but we can stop the next violation.
                          The next attack is coming.
                          It is already happening.
                          We are all being attacked.
                          We have rights.
                          We can stop THIS assault….
                          Some believe that more laws will make it better.
                          None of the proposed laws would have stopped the horror.
                          Restrictions on firearms would not only have had no effect on these killings,
                          They assault the foundation of this great country.
                          Our constitution and bill of rights are the solid foundation
                          That allows this nation to be great.


                          I kinda ran out of creative juice, so I thought I would throw it at the wall and see if anything sticks for someone else to run with....
                          zymurgy:
                          a branch of applied chemistry that studies fermentation processes, as in brewing.



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                          • #28
                            MattyB
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 350

                            You bring up a good point. That is SOUND QUALITY.

                            I never thought about it since HD video is so easy to do now days, sound is another story.

                            Having a jump cut sequence with what may be a lot of difference in sound, most likely echoey, it may be best to figure out how we can deal with that.

                            An HD web cam and a pin on mic available at most electronics stores may be the way to go now that I think about it. We all know the videos of self made gun reviews and it sounds like you are listening to the person from down the hall. That aint gonna cut it. Modern video editing can do a lot but crap in crap out. Cant fix what was messed up to begin with so that should be a detail that should be handled now, considering we have what I would call a very good script to go off of.

                            Its been almost 10 years since I was involved in Video Production but thats what I did as a teenager and for fun during my early twenties.

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                            • #29
                              FastFinger
                              In Memoriam
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 2983

                              Originally posted by Mullins
                              PM replied to

                              FastFinger I mean no offence when picking apart your post.

                              No offence taken, and likewise I don't mean to offend.

                              My point is simply that the actual production isn't the critical part - that would be coming up with a great idea. The very difficult challenge is producing something that is so interesting that it will be seen by people who are not already in our camp and so compelling that it changes peoples' attitudes.

                              Personally I'm not a big fan of criticising someones ideas if I don't have a alternative solution, but in this case that's what I am kind of doing. My apologies.
                              Last edited by FastFinger; 03-10-2013, 9:10 PM.
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                              • #30
                                Mullins
                                Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 312

                                Sorry I had such a busy day yesterday and couldn't get online.

                                I was looking around and have found close to 200anti gun bills at both the state(all 50) and federal level that have been proposed in 2013.

                                I like the script we have and would like to get a few people recorded with that.

                                Sound Quality is going to be the big issue but can be corrected. It involves much more work than I would like but I might just have to deal with it.

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