Shipping Ammo question

[vr6veedub]

Is there a sticky that gives detailed instruction on how to ship ammo?

[SoCal Bob]

It has to be by UPS or FedEx and it has to be from one of their hubs, their shipping partner's won't ship ammo (think UPS store). They won't accept a .50 or larger round.

The box must have an ORMD sticker, you can Google ORMD and download an example you can print out and tape to the box.

[cpatbay]

I shipped mine UPS. There are instructions at their website. It's pretty straight forward. But you need to go to their depots to ship as many of the satellite UPS stores do not accept ammo.

[vr6veedub]

Is there an increased cost to ship ammo compared to non-ammo items?

[SoCal Bob]

I don't recall any extra fees, it usually is pricey because the weight of the ammo.

[paul0660]

Is there an increased cost to ship ammo compared to non-ammo items?

No. If you ship powder or primers it is more difficult.

I guess there is not a sticky for shipping ammo. At least I could not find it in 30 seconds.

[vr6veedub]

Ok thanks everyone, I've had some members on here tell me to just throw it in a USPS flat rate box and ship it. I'm not trying to get into any trouble, it's not worth it for me

[paul0660]

It is illegal to ship ammo in the MAIL.

You would think a dying business would want business, but they don't.

[berg]

You should also specify a signature on delivery of someone over 18. That is if you didn't get proof that the buyer is an adult. This is an extra $5 and change.

[wild_weasel]

I have been shipping ammo home to California from Virginia since last year while in VA for work. There Is a UPS hub just down the street, I use heavy duty boxes and tape, add an ORM-D Small Arms Ammunition lable, and ship it UPS Ground. This year they have started requiring a signature at an added fee of $5. I have had no issues to date. Again use lots of good quality tape and heavy duty boxes.

You should also specify a signature on delivery of someone over 18. That is if you didn't get proof that the buyer is an adult. This is an extra $5 and change.

[mrkubota]

... also, there's supposed to be a change in the labeling after 2013 from the old ORM-D type to this:



Here's a link to some info:

http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/19328/t/ORM-D-Labels-for-Shipping-Ammo.html#.UTiehzeQi6R

[wild_weasel]

UPS is not using these yet, I had to add an ORM-D lable over it.

... also, there's supposed to be a change in the labeling after 2013 from the old ORM-D type to this:



Here's a link to some info:
http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearm...l#.UTiehzeQi6R

[Mssr. Eleganté]

UPS is not using these yet...

Yes they are. UPS has been accepting the black and white diamond "limited quantity" labels for two years now. The person you dealt with at UPS just didn't have a clue. That person will probably still be insisting people use the old ORM-D labels next year when it will actually be illegal to do so.

The UPS web site and online tariff don't even specify which kind of label to use when shipping ammo. They just say that packages containing ammunition must be packaged in compliance with federal regulations...

...and federal regulations say that you can use either the ORM-D CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS label or the black and white diamond label until the end of this year. After that you must use the black and white diamond label.

If you guys would just print up your own shipping labels off of the UPS web site and slap a LQ diamond label on the box then the UPS shipping counter ladies won't even ask you about what you are shipping. Better yet, when you print your own shipping labels you can just hand the package to the first UPS delivery guy you see. You just walk up to him with the package and say "Hey, can you take this one? It's prepaid and ready to go!"

[old-trapper]

Face to face transfer is required for handgun ammo in California...only FFl can ship

UPS just requires a ORD sticker ...but law requires face to face,,,dont know about rifle

30312. (a) Commencing February 1, 2011, the delivery or transfer of
ownership of handgun ammunition may only occur in a face-to-face
transaction with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide
evidence of identity from the purchaser or other transferee.
(b) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to or affect the sale,
delivery, or transfer of handgun ammunition to any of the following:
(1) An authorized law enforcement representative of a city,
county, city and county, or state or federal government, if the sale,
delivery, or transfer is for exclusive use by that government agency
and, prior to the sale, delivery, or transfer of the handgun
ammunition, written authorization from the head of the agency
employing the purchaser or transferee is obtained, identifying the
employee as an individual authorized to conduct the transaction, and
authorizing the transaction for the exclusive use of the agency
employing the individual.
(2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing
with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a
firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.
(3) An importer or manufacturer of handgun ammunition or firearms
who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44
(commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code
and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(4) A person who is on the centralized list maintained by the
Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section
28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6 of this title.
(5) A person whose licensed premises are outside this state and
who is licensed as a dealer or collector of firearms pursuant to
Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United
States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(6) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant
to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United
States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose
licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current
certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice
pursuant to Section 26710.
(7) A handgun ammunition vendor.
(8) A consultant-evaluator.
(c) A violation of this section is a misdemeanor.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Listen to paul...face to face transfer is required for handgun ammo in California...only FFl can ship

UPS just requires a ORD sticker ...but law requires face to face,,,dont know about rifle

Sorry, but this is 100% BS. You don't know what you are talking about. Paul was just saying that it is illegal to mail ammo via the Postal Service. He wasn't saying that it's illegal to ship ammo. The law you quoted was stuck down by a judge and never went into effect.