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  • 74man
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 99

    30 Rd. MAG QUESTION??

    I was in a local gun store a couple of weeks ago and watched a guy buy 7 each 30 round magpul Magazines. The store employee was disassembling them and tapped the end plate to the outside of the mags. and sold him the mags disassembled.
    Now I thought that 30 round mags were illegal. How does this work? Are they only illegal if they are assembled? If so, maybe the guy was stocking up for when the s hits the f.
    Sorry if this is a stupid question but it has been bothering me since seeing him walk out with 7 each 30 rounders. Need an answer!!!! Read the California laws on magazines from 2005, must have changed.
    Thank you for all your answers.
    74man
    A MAN WITH A GUN IS A CITIZEN,
    A MAN WITHOUT A GUN IS A SUBJECT.
    WHAT ABOUT YOU???
  • #2
    pigpen66m
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Jan 2013
    • 1032

    They are Mag kits for repair of existing legal 30 rd mags. It is illegal to buy 30 rd mags in Ca.

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    • #3
      pigpen66m
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Jan 2013
      • 1032

      What store I need to repair a few of mine.

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      • #4
        repubconserv
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 3056

        Originally posted by pigpen66m
        It is illegal to buy 30 rd mags in Ca.
        No it is not. It is illegal to import, sell or manufacture them.

        both of you read this. Then read it again. If you have any questions read it again. If you have further questions, come back and ask, but just make sure you have read this good.

        Last edited by repubconserv; 03-03-2013, 10:27 PM.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by 74man
          Read the California laws on magazines from 2005, must have changed.
          Read this thread, in order to be caught up to current info.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            pigpen66m
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Jan 2013
            • 1032

            Look at item 6 you can buy kits to repair 30 rd mags you just can't make new ones.
            Last edited by pigpen66m; 03-04-2013, 4:06 AM.

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            • #7
              Grumpyoldretiredcop
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2008
              • 6437

              From the wiki that you should have read, and read again:

              "Dealer" FFLs may get licenses from DOJ for these activities
              This is how the FFL imported the magazines to disassemble into parts, which may then be sold legally to anyone. It is the responsibility of the buyer not to commit a crime (for example, assembling the parts into a new magazine) once the parts are in their possession.
              Last edited by Grumpyoldretiredcop; 03-04-2013, 3:30 AM.
              I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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              • #8
                pigpen66m
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Jan 2013
                • 1032

                An FFL can disassemble the mags and sell them as a parts kit you can repair a 30 rd mag you legally own you just can't make new ones.

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                • #9
                  pigpen66m
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1032

                  Penal Code 32310 (was 12020 (a)(2) states
                  Except as provided in article 2 ( commencing with section 32400) of this chapter and in chapter 1 (commencing with section 17700) of division 2 of title 2, commencing January 1 2000,any person in the state who manufactures or causes to manufactures imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any high capacity magazine is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in state prison.

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                  • #10
                    dieselpower
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11471

                    Originally posted by pigpen66m
                    Penal Code 32310 (was 12020 (a)(2) states
                    Except as provided in article 2 ( commencing with section 32400) of this chapter and in chapter 1 (commencing with section 17700) of division 2 of title 2, commencing January 1 2000,any person in the state who manufactures or causes to manufactures imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any high capacity magazine is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in state prison.
                    yes that is the law... but you need to also list all the exclusions to the law in order to make sense of it.

                    LCM (Large capacity Magazines) were not banned, they were restricted. Big difference. By only reading that part of the law it gives you a false sense of the law. It doesnt tell you all the legal ways to transport, sell offer for sale, give, lend and manufacture.

                    Right now, this very second I can legally, transport/import, manufacture, sell offer to sell, give or lend any LCM if I meet the requirements set forth in the exclusions to the law.

                    @ the OP, what you saw was a legal transaction. The Seller has a license to sell LCM to non-restricted persons/agencies. They can also disassemble those LCM into parts and sell the parts to anyone. There is no function or part of the law restricting LCM parts either as a whole unit or individual sub-assemblies. If I can legally sell LCM, I can also disassemble them and sell the parts. If I can not legally sell the LCM, I MUST as a function of the law only sell the parts.

                    There is nothing stopping you from driving to Arizona, buying 1000 LCM, disassembling them into parts, drive back to CA and selling the parts. This is dangerous since some DAs may try to say you were going to manufacture LCM...so its not a good business plan without a business plan...LOL

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