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  • DeliveryBoy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2012
    • 268

    Cable Locks Keyed Alike- CA Approved?

    I'm tired of going shooting with a half dozen(or more) sets of locks and their accompanying keys. Fumbling around with so many options. No to mention the hastle of not misplacing.

    I was about to order a set of 3 standard locks and 3 cable locks- respectively keyed the same... Then I remembered the CA approved lock bs. That is just for purchasing of a tool, right? Aka bs state regulation to increase rev? I mean there is no way to tell that x lock is ca appoved and y lock isn't.

    Thanks in advance!
    WTB S&W Model 10 or S&W 357 (of various models) 3 or 4" barrel.

    Stay Safe and Shoot Straight.
  • #2
    Merc1138
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    What are you talking about approved lock bs?

    You need the lock when you buy the handgun(and that's federal, not state), you can then immediately throw it away.



    Go buy a case/bag/whatever, throw all of your guns in that, then lock the container with a $5 luggage lock with a combination so there's no keys to misplace.
    Last edited by Merc1138; 03-01-2013, 4:55 PM.

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    • #3
      JoshuaS
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1617

      I have one and only one CA cable lock...I returned the others the Walmart after picking up the guns.

      If you have a trunk, you don't need any lock whatsoever to go shooting, the trunk counts as a locked container. And you sure as hell don't need an individual one for each gun. And in anycase, what good would it do...a handgun must either be in a locked container or trunk period. Just putting a cable lock on it means squat. You will be arrested. But in trunk, no cable lock? That is fine.

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      • #4
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by JoshuaS
        I have one and only one CA cable lock...I returned the others the Walmart after picking up the guns.

        If you have a trunk, you don't need any lock whatsoever to go shooting, the trunk counts as a locked container. And you sure as hell don't need an individual one for each gun. And in anycase, what good would it do...a handgun must either be in a locked container or trunk period. Just putting a cable lock on it means squat. You will be arrested. But in trunk, no cable lock? That is fine.
        Well, you've got to be able to get the guns to the trunk, could be an issue depending on your home/parking situation and whether you're in a GFSZ. But you're right, cable/trigger locks mean **** all after you've bought it.

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        • #5
          DVSmith
          Cantankerous old coot
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2007
          • 3702

          There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

          Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.

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          • #6
            Maltese Falcon
            Ordo Militaris Templi
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2009
            • 6739

            I got a bunch of these, a little spendy, but no keys and same combo you set, also TSA approved so you can use while traveling.

            ...plus they work on rifle case zipper eyelets.




            .

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            • #7
              JoshuaS
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1617

              Originally posted by DVSmith
              There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

              Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.
              No it doesn't.

              You can transport it to the vehicle in a gun case without a lock, or, if in a non-gun case, locked. The case doesn't have to be locked if it is designed for a gun. And, e.g., at the range or while going from your car into a gun store or gun show, UOC is legal, as one of the couple of hundred exceptions to the UOC ban

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              • #8
                DVSmith
                Cantankerous old coot
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2007
                • 3702

                Go cheap:


                Or even cheaper:

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                • #9
                  DVSmith
                  Cantankerous old coot
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3702

                  Originally posted by JoshuaS
                  No it doesn't.

                  You can transport it to the vehicle in a gun case without a lock, or, if in a non-gun case, locked. The case doesn't have to be locked if it is designed for a gun. And, e.g., at the range or while going from your car into a gun store or gun show, UOC is legal, as one of the couple of hundred exceptions to the UOC ban
                  I am not sure this could be any more clear:

                  25610. A citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years
                  who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is
                  not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing,
                  receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, from transporting
                  or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of
                  being concealed upon the person, provided that the following
                  applies to the firearm:
                  (1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked
                  in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle.
                  (2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from
                  any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying
                  the firearm, the firearm is contained within a locked
                  container.

                  (b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit
                  the otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol,
                  revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
                  person in accordance with the provisions listed in Section
                  16580.

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                  • #10
                    jben
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2034

                    Originally posted by DVSmith
                    I am not sure this could be any more clear:



                    http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting


                    I think he's talking about the new long gun transport law.
                    Which of course, doesn't help if you're transporting handguns.

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                    • #11
                      Librarian
                      Admin and Poltergeist
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44678

                      Originally posted by jben
                      I think he's talking about the new long gun transport law.
                      Which of course, doesn't help if you're transporting handguns.
                      25610, as quoted correctly by DVSmith, says "... any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, ... "

                      More to the point, the OP asks if CA cares about keyed-alike locks; the answer is no. But yes, there IS a list of approved locks. If you buy a thing in CA called a 'gun lock', it has to be on the list to be on sale.

                      What you cannot do is buy a set of 3 or whatever, and use those as the 'safety device' for picking up new guns forever after: those have to have a receipt showing purchase within the 30 days prior to pickup.

                      So, to the wiki:



                      Gun locks you buy to satisfy the dealer requirement have no use at all in transport (unless you can use them to lock a completely-enclosing container).

                      CA law doesn't care about using the locks when storing - no requirement to use or even keep them.
                      Last edited by Librarian; 03-01-2013, 7:12 PM.
                      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                      • #12
                        jdouglas
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1101

                        Originally posted by DVSmith
                        Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.
                        Actually, my car has a portable trunk. Well, not really, as it's still attached to the rest of the car. So I just carry the whole thing inside when I need to load/unload firearms.

                        Kind of inconvenient, but it beats having to buy half a dozen locked cases.
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                        • #13
                          DVSmith
                          Cantankerous old coot
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3702

                          Originally posted by jdouglas
                          Actually, my car has a portable trunk. Well, not really, as it's still attached to the rest of the car. So I just carry the whole thing inside when I need to load/unload firearms.

                          Kind of inconvenient, but it beats having to buy half a dozen locked cases.
                          LOL - Good luck with a judge and jury buying that one. But hey, who am I to doubt your compliance with the law!

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                          • #14
                            Cactus_Tim
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 1359

                            Originally posted by Maltese Falcon
                            I got a bunch of these, a little spendy, but no keys and same combo you set, also TSA approved so you can use while traveling.

                            ...plus they work on rifle case zipper eyelets.




                            .
                            Just remember, if you are traveling by airline...
                            Do not use TSA locks on Firearm cases!
                            No one should be able to open your firearm case except for you.
                            If TSA needs it open and it's been declared as a firearm, you must be present to open the case.
                            If undeclared, they'll cut the lock.

                            Firearms and Ammunition - Traveling with Special Items
                            Last edited by Cactus_Tim; 03-02-2013, 10:53 AM.

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by DVSmith
                              There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

                              Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.
                              The case only has to be locked if it's not designed to hold a firearm.
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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