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Are there any stats anywhere that show local LEOs (State, Counties, and Municipalities) actually arresting law-abiding citizens for possession or use of so-called recently prohibited or banned firearms-related items? When was the last time any otherwise law-abiding citizen here or there was arrested for allegedly violating big govt's liberal twist on the language/meaning/intent of our 2nd Amendment? I'd like to know because I've been to several ranges here in SoCal and what I've seen so far are like-minded responsible and apparently law-abiding firearms enthusiasts minding their own business as they enjoy their hobby.3/1/13 Regarding LEO Sales.
Back in 1990, when I was deployed in Desert Shield and Desert Storm as a Marine grunt, some companies prioritized me items for my M16 for shipping that I purchased with my own funds. After getting out and forming Magpul in 1999, I established the same priority policy for Military and Law Enforcement, due to the requirements of their profession.
The same policy has been in place for 13 years now and has never been an issue until a few days ago. I do not support the idea that individual police officers should be punished for the actions of their elected officials. That said, I understand the concerns that some have with Law Enforcement officers getting special treatment while at the same time denouncing 2nd amendment rights to another citizen in the same state.
With the fight in Colorado right now we do not have time to implement a new program, so I have suspended all LE sales to ban states until we can implement a system wherein any Law Enforcement officer buying for duty use will have to promise to uphold their oath to the US Constitution - specifically the second and fourteenth amendments - as it applies to all citizens.
Richard Fitzpatrick- President/CEO -Founder
Magpul Industries Corp
I fully realize that NO ONE wants to be a "test", but I've yet to personally see someone get arrested at a range for using a hi-cap pistol mag or drop a mag from an AR without a tool. This being said, I can't help but believe that the local on and off-duty cops at the range could care less about the "new" laws and just want firearms enthusiasts to be responsible....unless some spineless anti-2A crybaby wimp takes the time to be a snitch and point the alleged offender out.
(Edit: I'm not advocating the intentional violation of our firearms laws any more than I'm telling folks to exceed the posted speed limits just because that's how people drive anyway...10~15mph over when we've all taken our chances...and the cops look the other way. All I'm saying is that the chances of someone intentionally or inadvertently inserting a large-capacity mag into a BB'd AR and not use a "tool" to remove the mag could happen...and it probably has and we just never knew about it or cared. And no one to my knowledge has ever been arrested for it...which means to me the local cops aren't necessarily looking for it.)Last edited by coverme2; 03-03-2013, 3:02 PM.I'd rather have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.Comment
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If you are asking if people have been arrested for being in possession of "assault weapons" in this state when the firearms were in fact not, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if people in this state have been arrested for possessing "high capacity" magazines, the answer is yes.Are there any stats anywhere that show local LEOs (State, Counties, and Municipalities) actually arresting law-abiding citizens for possession or use of so-called recently prohibited or banned firearms-related items? When was the last time any otherwise law-abiding citizen here or there was arrested for allegedly violating big govt's liberal twist on the language/meaning/intent of our 2nd Amendment? I'd like to know because I've been to several ranges here in SoCal and what I've seen so far are like-minded responsible and apparently law-abiding firearms enthusiasts minding their own business as they enjoy their hobby.
I fully realize that NO ONE wants to be a "test", but I've yet to personally see someone get arrested at a range for using a hi-cap pistol mag or drop a mag from an AR without a tool. This being said, I can't help but believe that the local on and off-duty cops at the range could care less about the "new" laws and just want firearms enthusiasts to be responsible....unless some spineless anti-2A crybaby wimp takes the time to be a snitch and point the alleged offender out.
(Edit: I'm not advocating the intentional violation of our firearms laws any more than I'm telling folks to exceed the posted speed limits just because that's how people drive anyway...10~15mph over when we've all taken our chances...and the cops look the other way. All I'm saying is that the chances of someone intentionally or inadvertently inserting a large-capacity mag into a BB'd AR and not use a "tool" to remove the mag could happen...and it probably has and we just never knew about it or cared. And no one to my knowledge has ever been arrested for it...which means to me the local cops aren't necessarily looking for it.)
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"Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman
10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>Comment
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Yes, I have read/heard/seen the news of criminals being charged for being in possession of firearms/components they are prohibited from possessing....usually after they've been caught committing a crime. But what about the law-abiding citizen who lawfully possessed items and has been made into a criminal just by some new gun laws? Have or are the local LEOs looking for and arresting these citizens? If they are arresting and charging I haven't seen or heard. And I'm guessing its because most cops do respect the 2A. Maybe their politically motivated top bosses don't?If you are asking if people have been arrested for being in possession of "assault weapons" in this state when the firearms were in fact not, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if people in this state have been arrested for possessing "high capacity" magazines, the answer is yes.Last edited by coverme2; 03-03-2013, 4:08 PM.I'd rather have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.Comment
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The first one, possession of a [non] assault weapon, yes: people have gotten in trouble when a LEO simply inspected the weapon. Whether it was because they were out shooting on BLM (a Ranger in that case) or told the LEO at a traffic stop that they did have a firearm when asked. The second I cannot recall any exact story like the previous, but I also would have a hard time believing that it has never happened like the AW thing.
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My brother and I just scored 15 - at PROPER retail pricing - on the first come first served order. Works for me.10 +1 in the chamberComment
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I already signed up. Just waiting to have my info verified.Props again to Magpul for moving pmags to folks that need them!
I'm thinking six 30-rounders and four 20-rounders.
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Excellent news my CO bretheren! Sweet!"Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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What difference does any of this make in California? You are limited to 10 rd mags regardless of what Magpul does.Comment
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Sweet, just sent this to my friends in Aurora.
Hopefully it is not per household/address so that both him and his wife can both order.- I don't believe in Safety First. Never have and never will.
- I believe in Safety ALWAYS. Bad things happen if you only do it first...Comment
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First of all, not everyone here is CA resident. Many states are represented here.
Second, it helped this CA resident as my brother is a CO resident so he bought his 15 and now, I get 7 of them. And I get 7 of them not at $70 a piece, not at $60 a piece, not at $50 a piece, but at proper $17 retail.10 +1 in the chamberComment
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Just put in my order for 10 mags! WOO HOO!!!
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