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  • #31
    BKinzey
    OT Banned
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2009
    • 4390

    Here's a good but $$$ suggestion.

    Any round you buy for HD should cycle reliably thru your firearm. As a test you should run 100 rounds thru your gun and not have any problems other than draining your wallet. In a HD situation you don't want your firearm to get finicky with your selected ammo.
    Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
    "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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    • #32
      desertexplore
      Banned
      • Jan 2013
      • 4221

      Originally posted by Purgatoiry
      Everything I've read about critical defense seems like a gimmick. It doesn't pass FBI protocols and it seems like they somehow turned that around into a selling point for home defense. If I'm trusting an ammo to protect myself & my family I'm sticking with what's been field tested and reliable. Critical defense had a history of FTF's and any ammo that slaps a different coloured plug and says it's for zombies pretty much confirms to me it's a joke.
      Interesting posting and a good read. Can you please give me more info on the ammo failing the FBI trails? It would help me out as the topic is very interesting to me. Thanks

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      • #33
        vliberatore
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2011
        • 10055

        Originally posted by Purgatoiry
        Everything I've read about critical defense seems like a gimmick. It doesn't pass FBI protocols and it seems like they somehow turned that around into a selling point for home defense. If I'm trusting an ammo to protect myself & my family I'm sticking with what's been field tested and reliable. Critical defense had a history of FTF's and any ammo that slaps a different coloured plug and says it's for zombies pretty much confirms to me it's a joke.
        About the FTFs, I've had one when inserting a mag forcefully in my M&P with the slide open. Repeated it many times without an issue and never had a FTF other than that.

        Originally posted by desertexplore
        Interesting posting and a good read. Can you please give me more info on the ammo failing the FBI trails? It would help me out as the topic is very interesting to me. Thanks
        From earlier in the thread:

        Critical Duty is designed for the FBI penetration tests, i.e., at least 12 inches of penetration in gel after passing through glass/wood/wallboard/etc.
        Last edited by vliberatore; 02-23-2013, 6:15 PM.
        Originally posted by fighterpilot562
        Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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        • #34
          tdyoung1958
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 798

          Originally posted by David1983
          Thoughts on this hollow point for home defense?

          Any info would be greatly appreciated
          good round, as long as your gun feeds it, my Sig 1911 hates them but loves Golden Saber

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          • #35
            MudCamper
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 4605

            Originally posted by desertexplore
            Interesting posting and a good read. Can you please give me more info on the ammo failing the FBI trails? It would help me out as the topic is very interesting to me. Thanks

            Critical Defense was designed to be a civilian self defense round. If you want maximum expansion you get CD. If you want barrier penetration then get Critical Duty or some other brand designed for that. Don't compare apples to oranges. Any round that passes the FBI test will by design be harder and expand less. I don't plan on having to shoot through car windshields very often.

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            • #36
              desertexplore
              Banned
              • Jan 2013
              • 4221

              I got 2 boxes of Duty for free and funny thing now is I probably couldn't find the Defense rounds anywhere in Nor Cal. Since I'm stuck with them, I'm sure the Defense would will work fine in my P226 and Glock 17 if needed. I do like the heavier 135 grain bullet better as well.

              Thanks for this thread topic. I know it's a boring topic for some, but I love talking various JHP ammo and performance.

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