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are there any muzzle breaks that are illegal in california ?

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  • zuchaka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 900

    are there any muzzle breaks that are illegal in california ?

    My guess is no, but i wanna be sure before i get myself into trouble , i do realize that the dreaded flash hider can be a issue, but i just wanted to check and be sure, since these laws don't follow any common sense.




    ^ that is the muzzle break in question





    ^ 9:22 mark is when he fires with the break on, seems to work pretty well
    Last edited by zuchaka; 02-17-2013, 9:52 PM.
  • #2
    tcrpe
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 10269

    Broken muzzles, while dangerous, are not illegal in California.

    Originally posted by SilverTauron
    Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
    Originally posted by loose_electron
    PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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    • #3
      eaglemike
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 3937

      It's a brake, like the brakes on your car.

      If it's not a silencer, and not sold as a flash hider, then you should be ok. Note that people have been arrested and prosecuted for arms that are not illegal.

      As always, do everything you can to make sure what you are doing isn't illegal.
      There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

      It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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      • #4
        AleksandreCz
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1037

        No Particular muzzle break is Illegal. How ever due to poorly written and stupid laws anything that reduces flash can be a flash hider which in itself not illegal but would be on a firearm with a detachable magazine. But since we are talking about a shotgun without a detachable magazine here stick whatever you want on it.
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        • #5
          zuchaka
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 900

          thanks all, and just for the record the vepr will have a bullet button when i get it in the next few days
          Last edited by zuchaka; 02-18-2013, 7:30 AM.

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          • #6
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Originally posted by AleksandreCz
            No Particular muzzle break is Illegal. How ever due to poorly written and stupid laws anything that reduces flash can be a flash hider which in itself not illegal but would be on a firearm with a detachable magazine. But since we are talking about a shotgun without a detachable magazine here stick whatever you want on it.
            The rules are different for shotguns. You can stick a flash suppressor on them anytime you want if the shotgun is otherwise legal since a shotgun is not a semi-automatic center-fire rifle.



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            • #7
              Cobrafreak
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1335

              It's the flash hiders that CA doesn't allow. The definition of a flash hider on the CA books is an equal amount of space between the gas discharge holes. If you see an AR CA "brake", it's the standard flash hider with the very bottom gas port not machined out. You could just as well weld the bottom port up too. These are great because when you are shooting prone the bottom port kicks up dirt, gravel, and rocks and makes a mess. I prefer brakes over flash hiders.

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              • #8
                Reductio
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 1923

                Originally posted by Cobrafreak
                It's the flash hiders that CA doesn't allow.
                Um, only on a featureless rifle. A flash hider is considered a "feature," a brake isn't. You can keep your flash hiders on your bullet-buttoned rifles all day long.
                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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                • #9
                  eaglemike
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3937

                  Originally posted by Cobrafreak
                  It's the flash hiders that CA doesn't allow. The definition of a flash hider on the CA books is an equal amount of space between the gas discharge holes. If you see an AR CA "brake", it's the standard flash hider with the very bottom gas port not machined out. You could just as well weld the bottom port up too. These are great because when you are shooting prone the bottom port kicks up dirt, gravel, and rocks and makes a mess. I prefer brakes over flash hiders.
                  Ummmm, not exactly... I've seen many flash hiders or flash suppressors with no bottom holes or slots.

                  Generally if the exit hole of the muzzle device is close to the bullet diameter, it's a brake. Usually this means the inner diameter of the body of the device is larger than the exit hole. I've not seen a clear legal definition, although it has been much discussed. Some are more clearly brakes than others.
                  There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                  It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                  • #10
                    JDay
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19393

                    Most flash hiders have no openings on the bottom. This is to prevent dust from getting blown up when you are prone.
                    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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