FTF&PPT ???

[lerroy1119]

I've been wanting to buy a garand for a while but never really understood how FTF&PPT works. What kind of paper work is involved. Is DROS and 10 waiting period necessary. Any info would be great. Thnx

[thefifthspeed]

Depends on 2 things:

Where you buy it from

How old the receiver is

If you buy it from a private party then you would FTF (face to face) if the rifle is over 50 years old.

If the receiver is not 50 years or older or the sale is from a shop then you are subjected to the DROS and the 10 day waiting period.

95% of Garands are 50+ years old and can be transfered FTF as long as you not aquiring the rifle across state lines. For example if you want to buy a Garand from some guy in Florida then he would either ship it to a dealer and they DROS it or he can ship it to you if you have a 03FFL (C&R license). If you don't have a C&R you cannot aquire 50+ long rifles from out of state directly and they have to be shipped to a 01FFL(usually a shop).

For a FTF transaction there is usually no paper work invloved but when a C&R holder sells a rifle he/she is required to take down your information to put into their bound book.

PPT (private party transfers) are usually meant for transactions from person to person and face to face but involving pistols and long guns not 50+ years old. So this wouldn't involve garands that often unless the garand reciever is 50 years or newer.

If you are looking for a nice Garand to collect and shoot I would check out CMP and go for either a field or service grade rifle, you can't beat their prices. I also might be posting a Garand for sale so check the for sale boards here as well.

Good luck

[lerroy1119]

Thanks alot for the info, clears up alot.

[lerroy1119]

If I do a FTF would I still need to register the weapon

[AJAX22]

Long guns are NOT registered

only pistols and assult rifles are registered

[thefifthspeed]

Long guns are NOT registered

only pistols and assult rifles are registered

I think what he's getting at is would he need to take report the sale via DOJ or FFL if he PPT'ed a long gun; which the answer is no if the long gun is over 50 years old. If you are transfering a gun 50 years or newer it is done at an 01FFL. For a FTF with a 50+ y/o gun it's called cash and carry for that very reason. Sometimes buyers and sellers tend to be extra safe and swap info/sign receipts/sign a paper saying they are ok to own a gun etc...
You would have to "register" a C&R pistol if you aquired it out of state and brought back into CA by sending in a form to DOJ.

[lerroy1119]

Thanks for the info. I'm still kinda new to the firearm scene and I always get confused with all the California laws. Ban this Ban that. Wouldn't know what to do if I never found this sight.