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I wonder who called the police? This is why it's good to keep your mouth shut. And makes me question weather to ever call the police again.NRA Member
The Constitution does not bestow wisdom. It's up to the body politic to be wise. -Patriot
All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
-Edmund Burke
I'd much rather go to my grave never needing my gun, than go there wishing I had it.
- Phil Dalmolin
The Battle of Athens was illegal too.Comment
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I feel very sorry for Mr. Niederhauser, but it looks like he might have made a very bad mistake, and it might wind up costing him dearly.
Our society has long taken a dim view of using or threatening lethal force against another human. But our legal system has for hundreds of years accepted that it can be justified when necessary to prevent imminent, grievous harm to innocents. It's hard to see how Mr.Niederhauser's firing of his gun can be justified under any legally accepted standard.
He will have his opportunity to attempt to legally justify his conduct, but things look kind of bleak for him."It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff CooperComment
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Too bad he isn't a LEO.I feel very sorry for Mr. Niederhauser, but it looks like he might have made a very bad mistake, and it might wind up costing him dearly.
Our society has long taken a dim view of using or threatening lethal force against another human. But our legal system has for hundreds of years accepted that it can be justified when necessary to prevent imminent, grievous harm to innocents. It's hard to see how Mr.Niederhauser's firing of his gun can be justified under any legally accepted standard.
He will have his opportunity to attempt to legally justify his conduct, but things look kind of bleak for him.
Cops seem to be able to shoot an unidentified person in the back without worrying about being charged or even fired.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74HgbjSCLMComment
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Congratulations on your ignorance. See Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)."It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff CooperComment
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The guy didn't say it *never* happens, just that it usually doesn't. I'm waiting to see the outcome of this and the other one that happened the same day. My pessimist inside is telling me that no charges filed / no disciplinary actions taken will be the outcome. Sure, the city and the agencies may cough up some $$, but that's not their money, so it's no problem.Congratulations on your ignorance. See Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985).It was not a threat. It was an exaggerated response to an uncompromising stance. I was taught never to make a threat unless you are prepared to carry it out and I am not a fan of carrying anything. Even watching other people carrying things makes me uncomfortable. Mainly because of the possibility they may ask me to help.Comment
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"It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff CooperComment
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Yeah that probably wasn't the best of judgement, you never wanna shoot at people running away...it makes you look bad in court.Comment
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Here let me help you with that:
Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
Apocalypse Now!"The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
Sir Robert PeelComment
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Which is something that happened only yesterday, so we don't know how it will play out. And therefore, it can not possibly support Sniper3142's contention.Here let me help you with that:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ad-no-warning/"It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff CooperComment
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That only works in LA where they have a strong union.Comment
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