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  • hpdad
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 148

    First time shooting ever.

    I am in my mid 40s. Always wanted to own a firearm for a long time. One of my collage is gun nut. Been talking to him for years but never have a courage to pull a plug.

    Finally, on Jan 8, DROS a Glock 19 and picked up on the 18. Can't find any 9mm ammo for practice since. Mean while, I was watching video on youtube like crazy for: safety, how to stand, how to grip pistol, how to shoot.......like crazy .

    Yesterday, he (my collage) was nice enough to lend me 250 ammo . Today, took 100 ammo and went to the indoor range. Nervous as hell but also exciting.

    Now the shooting:

    Aiming: I know I should learn shooting with both eyes open but I aim much better with one closed. Switched the closed-eye and still better aim than both eyes open. Any tip on this.

    3 out of 100 ammo rejected and landed on my head. Should I need to call Glock. I though they already fixed that problem.
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    john67elco
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 3155

    Originally posted by Gwalker99
    ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


    half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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    • #3
      LCU1670
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2865

      Suggest getting some training, could answer a lot of questions early on before bad habits are formed. Check what is available locally. If you ever travel out las Vegas way, Google Front Sight. If you have any front Sight questions, search the forum and feel free to pm me.
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      • #4
        Foebia
        Banned
        • Oct 2012
        • 1347

        Just relax and enjoy the gun, gets some rounds down the range then when your more comfortable move on to keeping eyes open. Can't help ya on the ejected casing, maybe "limp wristing" try holding the gun tighter so the port stay in a better position. Sure a glock fan boi will have better info.

        If it was me work on being safe with your routine and build good habits and do them religiously. Many instructors with good classes that have good info

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        • #5
          HighLander51
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 5144

          Originally posted by hpdad

          Aiming: I know I should learn shooting with both eyes open but I aim much better with one closed. Switched the closed-eye and still better aim than both eyes open. Any tip on this.

          3 out of 100 ammo rejected and landed on my head. Should I need to call Glock. I though they already fixed that problem.
          You need to start with the fundamentals: stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control. Without seeing a video of you shooting, it's hard to tell. And you need to shoot with both eyes open. Are you cross dominant? The fix for that is to place a piece of scotch tape over your dominant eye. You can still see but the correct eye will now be on the front sight.

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          • #6
            CaliforniaLiberal
            #1 Bull Goose Loony
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 4690

            Originally posted by hpdad
            I am in my mid 40s. Always wanted to own a firearm for a long time. One of my collage is gun nut. Been talking to him for years but never have a courage to pull a plug.

            Finally, on Jan 8, DROS a Glock 19 and picked up on the 18. Can't find any 9mm ammo for practice since. Mean while, I was watching video on youtube like crazy for: safety, how to stand, how to grip pistol, how to shoot.......like crazy .

            Yesterday, he (my collage) was nice enough to lend me 250 ammo . Today, took 100 ammo and went to the indoor range. Nervous as hell but also exciting.

            Now the shooting:

            Aiming: I know I should learn shooting with both eyes open but I aim much better with one closed. Switched the closed-eye and still better aim than both eyes open. Any tip on this.

            3 out of 100 ammo rejected and landed on my head. Should I need to call Glock. I though they already fixed that problem.

            Welcome to CalGuns HpDad!!

            You might benefit from a handgun class. NRA has good ones for beginners and I'm sure you'll find local training companies as well.
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            • #7
              john67elco
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 3155

              FORGET stance. If you are shooting you should NEVER be there just "standing". Find a place to train and move. Indoor range is good for you figuring out the gun.
              Originally posted by Gwalker99
              ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


              half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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              • #8
                fiddletown
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 4928

                Welcome to gun ownership. Let me suggest that the best way to start is to find an NRA Basic Handgun class. That will get you off on the right foot.

                If you're near to the San Francisco Bay Area, check out Bayprofs.
                "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

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                • #9
                  hpdad
                  Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 148

                  After done a few simple tests, I think I have cross-eye dominant (right hand, left eye)


                  A very good article about cross-eye dominant

                  Last edited by hpdad; 02-02-2013, 10:41 AM.

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                  • #10
                    anthonyca
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 6316

                    Originally posted by hpdad
                    After done a few simple tests, I think I have cross-eye dominant (right hand, left eye)
                    Welcome. Please do the same for others as your colleague did for you and enlighten others to the wonderful world of guns.

                    I too am cross dominant. So is Hickok45 and many other good shooters.
                    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                    Originally posted by Wherryj
                    I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                    • #11
                      Divernhunter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 8753

                      I to shoot with one eye closed. Have for years since I became cross-dom. It may not be "right" but it works just fine for me. It may also work fine for you even if the "experts" say it is wrong. Ex=has been and (s)pert is just a drip under pressure.
                      I say just enjoy your firearm. As long as your shooting is accurate with one eye open then why worry about it.
                      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                      • #12
                        fiddletown
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4928

                        Originally posted by hpdad
                        After done a few simple tests, I think I have cross-eye dominant (right hand, left eye)...
                        Cross dominance can be a problem shooting long guns. It can usually be easily managed, however, with handguns.

                        One of the instructors I teach with is cross dominant like you. He simply turns his head (keeping it erect) slightly to the right to line up his left (dominant eye) with the sights. I've adopted a similar technique when shooting with my non-dominant (left) hand; I turn my head slightly to the left.

                        About 20 to 30 percent of the students in our monthly Basic Handgun class are cross dominant, and we teach them this technique. It works for most of them, although a few do have to resort to closing one eye.

                        With due respect to Tom Givens, who is a well known and outstanding trainer, a benefit of keeping the head erect and turning it, compared with tilting the head, is that tilting the head puts more strain on the neck muscles.

                        But either way can work and could probably allow you to shoot with both eyes open.

                        Originally posted by Divernhunter
                        I to shoot with one eye closed. Have for years since I became cross-dom. It may not be "right" but it works just fine for me. It may also work fine for you even if the "experts" say it is wrong...
                        Closing one eye can work, but there are advantages to shooting with both eyes open, if one can manage it successfully.

                        Keeping both eyes open retains depth perception and gives one a greater field of view. Both are desirable if one is competing in action gun games (IPSC, IDPA or Cowboy Action Shooting, etc.), or if one is using a gun for self defense.

                        Having shot in IPSC matches and also having gone through a number of shoot-house exercises in the course of training, I really appreciate the utility of being able to shoot with both eyes open.
                        "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

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