Winchester .30 M1 Carbine

[diametrik 7]

Anybody have any guidance on where to find best way to determine value of Winchester .30 M1 Carbine in decent original condition ? Will offer for sale when I can determine fair value.

[uzigalil]

cmp was selling them for $675.00, oh and you should be posting this in the rifle forum not sales forum

[Mezcalfud]

"original condition" as issued? or rebuild?

Post info/pics and markings, that will help identify value.

[thefifthspeed]

Depends on if it truley is original and if all the parts match and what condition it is in. Rebuild mix to Collector grade (and condition) will range from 700-2500. We need more info

[carsnguns]

DEPENDS ON MANUFACTURE AND CONDITION, CONDITION, CONDITION

$300.00 TO $3000.00

[Xerxes]

cmp was selling them for $675.00, oh and you should be posting this in the rifle forum not sales forum

Except he maybe trying to sell but not wanting to commit on price till he gets some feedback from us.

Don't know if you know anything about carbines but that CMP price is a good and fair benchmark price if you do not have time to research. They are currently selling them for $419 to $675 for well used (cosmetically) but fully functional carbines with some folks receiving some gems.

http://www.odcmp.com/rifles/carbine.htm

As stated though just a little research can make a difference of a few hundred dollars or on rare occasions a few thousand. Most likely it won't make a difference but you will kick yourself if you find out later it is worth allot more than you sold it for. You will find that having it made by Winchester or Rockola is worth almost 50% more than Inland (the cheapest) with all other things being equal.

Better to waste your time finding out it is only worth $650 than to not research and see it resold at this same forum for $2,000 a couple months after you sell it.

Maybe you can post some pictures and some close ups, especially of ordinance markings and areas that look damaged (worn finish, cracked stock, gouges on barrel, etc), and describe your firearms knowledge and if you feel knowledgeable enough to describe condition or if you need help in doing that.

As for the bottom price being $300, I think after seeing what Big 5 was trying to sell for $999 I would say the bottom price of a functioning carbine is $199 or maybe even $150 as I would not pay more than that for those carbines at Big 5. At $150 for a beater truck gun it might be cool if it shot reliably and somewhat accurately.

[Mezcalfud]

$300 bucks.....?

You can part a commercial out for that!

Do some research, the Duff books are good (scott-duff.com), or use CMP as a guide to fair price for a standard USGI Carbine and sell it off with no regrets. You may make someone very happy; I got a Bavarian that way.

[aplinker]

I love how everyone gives CMP prices as the value of Garands and Carbines.

On the regular market they sell for a fairly substantial premium, especially if it's a good example.

Of course, condition and matching parts can only make it more valuable.

Big 5 is selling garbage Carbines for $999.

[Mezcalfud]

why not use cmp as a gauge? cmp released a surplus into the market, they are priced very fair, and are available. I also don't see carbines selling instantly any more on the forums. I certainly wouldn't buy a service grade garand for more than the cmp sells them, nor would I a carbine.

Big 5 sells 999$ carbines because someone will buy them, same reason dealers buy cmp garands and double the price at gun shows. My first c&r was a mitchell's m48....for $300.....duh (in my defense; it shoots well and looks good).

I am referring to a low end market, and because no information was provided on what the winchester is, I think a low end price is reasonable to start with.

[John Browning]

CMP is not the best gauge because what they charge is based upon a loose grading system, so that no matter what you're at least getting your money's worth. Most times, you are getting much more than your monies worth. I have seen service grades that have been worth every penny, some worth hundreds more than the price, and rack grades worth hundreds more to collectors than service grades.

CMP is good at setting a price floor or ballpark. However, you never know what you're going to get. This carbine could be worth $300 to $3000.

[aplinker]

Agreed, but, in general... the CMP prices are below what the minimum price would be.

The other people here, on Calguns, that buy CMP rifles wouldn't buy this at a price that it would command on the free market, unless it were something special. What you're forgetting is that 95% of the firearm consuming public doesn't deal with the CMP.

That's my 2cents. The majority of people would under-price items for other sellers as they're basing it on what they would pay. Those aren't the people to ask. Ask people who know the market and what OTHER people would be willing to pay.

CMP is not the best gauge because what they charge is based upon a loose grading system, so that no matter what you're at least getting your money's worth. Most times, you are getting much more than your monies worth. I have seen service grades that have been worth every penny, some worth hundreds more than the price, and rack grades worth hundreds more to collectors than service grades.

CMP is good at setting a price floor or ballpark. However, you never know what you're going to get. This carbine could be worth $300 to $3000.