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  • nosjunkie
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 45

    FA BCG

    So owning any component of a AW is a big no no.. especially in CA.. So My question is if you have a FA BCG in your AR does that constitute a component of a AW??
  • #2
    kurac
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 2917

    No more so than the rest of the rifle.
    www.culinagrips.com
    "custom grips for shooters by shooters"

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    • #3
      NoNOS67
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 2161

      Originally posted by nosjunkie
      So owning any component of a AW is a big no no.. especially in CA.. So My question is if you have a FA BCG in your AR does that constitute a component of a AW??
      Nope.

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      • #4
        joemama
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 2333

        Originally posted by nosjunkie
        So owning any component of a AW is a big no no.. especially in CA.. So My question is if you have a FA BCG in your AR does that constitute a component of a AW??
        Not sure where you got your information. Start here then get back to us.

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        • #5
          Muscles Glasses
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 514

          I'm pretty sure most ARs come with a fa bcg nowadays. I think there is a letter floating around out there somewhere from the atf that gave the good to go to have fa bolt carriers in semi guns.
          If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.

          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

          We keep one foot in the water.

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          • #6
            Sam
            Calguns Addict
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2008
            • 5205

            Any component? In California there is not necessarily a ban on components but how those components are arranged. Most states do not have bans on "assault weapons."

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57182

              Originally posted by nosjunkie
              So owning any component of a AW is a big no no.. especially in CA..
              Incorrect.
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              • #8
                dieselpower
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 11471

                You are confusing terms and legal status.

                A FA BCG is a firearm part that can be used in both SA and FA firearms.

                The BATFE has ruled, parts of a FA firearm that make the firearm FA are just as illegal as owning the whole firearm. So a Full auto Hammer, COULD be considered as if you are in possession of the whole firearms...COULD I say. They say partS, because if by accident you get 1 hammer, they COULD overlook it, but if you are suspect in a crime, that one hammer COULD be used to tack on other charges... that fact they couldnt find the other parts is a matter for a jury to decide.

                Unlike a silencer. Possession of a silencer do not require the possession of a firearm.

                Same for Short barreled firearms. The fact you have the ability to manufacture a SBR COULD BE viewed as owning the firearm even if you did not assemble that firearm. So parts = a full firearm. This is only for NFA parts... which has ZERO to do with AW law.

                Now the BATFE has ruled the FA BCG is NOT a part of a FA, since it can be used in both SA & FA and has no part in the FA FCG (Fire Control Group). Even though the rear portion is needed to trigger the sear.

                California follows BATFE ruling on this. To own FA Firearms (Parts) you need both Local State and Federal BATFE approval.

                ALL THIS HAS ZERO TO DO WITH AW LAW.

                An AW is a SEMI-AUTOMATIC firearm. In CA, you are allowed to own all the parts to make a AW as long as you do not assemble that AW.

                The one trigger point is a Named firearm as an AW. Even in parts form a named AW COULD BE illegal.... why? Because the named AW still has a requirement to be semiautomatic/ Rifle / Pistol / Shotgun be strict adherence to the wording of the law. I wouldnt bet the farm on a case being tossed out because of this... BUT cases have been tossed out when the AW was found disassembled.

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                • #9
                  NoNOS67
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2161

                  Originally posted by Muscles Glasses
                  I'm pretty sure most ARs come with a fa bcg nowadays. I think there is a letter floating around out there somewhere from the atf that gave the good to go to have fa bolt carriers in semi guns.
                  Found this on another forum...
                  Attached Files

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                  • #10
                    Chaos47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6615

                    The others are correct federaly FA bolt carriers are not NFA because they are used in both semiautomatic and FA firearms.

                    CA mirros this stance with its own PC inside the AWB. Key words being "intended solely and exclusively"

                    CA PC 12200
                    The term "machinegun" as used in this chapter means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can readily be restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. The term also includes any weapon deemed by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms as readily convertible to a machinegun under Chapter 53 (commencing with Section 5801) of Title 26 of the United States Code.

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