Intrafamiliar rifle age limit

[Conker]

Is there an age limit (minimum age) for my son to receive a rifle from me? I know for handguns it is 18, but what about rifles and shotguns? Thanks.

[WhiteDingo]

They have to be able to legally own a firearm. So it's 18, to my knowledge.

[Breadfan]

18 for rifles 21 for handguns

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I don't think there is an age limit for long guns coming from a parent or from a grandparent with the parents permission.

The Penal Code spells out the 18 year old restricton for intra-familial handgun transfers, but does not mention an age restriction for intra-familial long gun transfers.

The only restriction I can find is that grandparents must have the parents permission if the child is a minor.

CPC 12078(p)

(4)Paragraph (3) of subdivision (a), and subdivision (d), of Section 12072 shall not apply to the transfer or loan of a firearm that is not a handgun to a minor by his or her parent or legal guardian.

(5) Paragraph (3) of subdivision (a) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the transfer or loan of a firearm that is not a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person to a minor by his or her grandparent who is not the legal guardian of the minor if the transfer is done with the express permission of the parent or legal guardian of the minor.

[leelaw]

for an intrafamilial transfer, the receiver must legally be able to own the firearm. 18 for rifles and shotguns, 18 for handguns.

[Conker]

Awesome, thanks guys. Was trying to find out the info from the Bureau of Firearms CA DOJ website.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Awesome, thanks guys...

But we gave you three totally different answers.

[WhiteDingo]

But we gave you three totally different answers.

Well, two of the answers were the same....out of the 4 there were

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Can one of you guys who posted that juveniles can't own long guns please post the section of the Penal Code that says so? I am having trouble finding it.

[leelaw]

But we gave you three totally different answers.

But it's easy when you can determine that breadfan is wrong

[Mssr. Eleganté]

But it's easy when you can determine that breadfan is wrong

Yeah, but I'm still trying to find out if I was wrong too.

[WhiteDingo]

Can one of you guys who posted that juveniles can't own long guns please post the section of the Penal Code that says so? I am having trouble finding it.

Federal law, not CA Penal Code, if I remember right. You cannot purchase(posses, sell, etc) a firearm anywhere in the US if you are under 18 years of age.

The NRA-ILA website has a nice little brief on federal gun laws

The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition.....Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=60

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Federal law, not CA Penal Code, if I remember right. You cannot purchase(posses, sell, etc) a firearm anywhere in the US if you are under 18 years of age.

Federal law says FFL's can't sell long guns to people who are under 18 years old. And it says juveniles can't posses handguns except for certain limited circumstances.

I don't see any Federal prohibition on long guns being owned by juveniles.

[WhiteDingo]

Federal law says FFL's can't sell long guns to people who are under 18 years old. And it says juveniles can't posses handguns except for certain limited circumstances.

I don't see any Federal prohibition on long guns being owned by juveniles.

I looked, and neither could I. I did find this though.

They can be indefinately loaned, according to the CA-AGs California Firearms Laws Handbook, Page 43.

So one would have to deduce that if an individual under 18 years of age is unable to purchase/sell any firearm, but can be loaned one by the above listed individuals, that it would not be legal for them to own one on their own.

It also states:

Hope that helps.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

So one would have to deduce that if an individual under 18 years of age is unable to purchase/sell any firearm, but can be loaned one by the above listed individuals, that it would not be legal for them to own one on their own.

It also states:




Hope that helps.

But you'll notice that the above restriction of 12072(a)(3) does not count if the long gun is transfered to the juvenile by his parent or grandparent.

12072(a)(3)(A) No person, corporation, or firm shall sell, loan, or transfer a firearm to a minor, nor sell a handgun to an individual under 21 years of age. (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to or affect those circumstances set forth in subdivision (p) of Section 12078.

12078(p)

(4) Paragraph (3) of subdivision (a), and subdivision (d), of Section 12072 shall not apply to the transfer or loan of a firearm that is not a handgun to a minor by his or her parent or legal guardian.

(5) Paragraph (3) of subdivision (a) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the transfer or loan of a firearm that is not a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person to a minor by his or her grandparent who is not the legal guardian of the minor if the transfer is done with the express permission of the parent or legal guardian of the minor

This 12078(p) exemption is the one I posted in my first answer and is what I based my claim on. It specificaly says that transfers to minors are OK if they come from a parent or grandparent.