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  • 4DSJW
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2009
    • 786

    Center Axis Relock/C.A.R., Experiences or Opinions

    I was just reading the CRPA December FL and saw an interesting article about the Center Axis Relock system of shooting. It sounds like it may be difficult to learn initially but that it may have some advantages. Has anybody spent time doing the C.A.R. training? What are your thoughts? What are the advantages or disadvantages?

    Thanks for your input!
  • #2
    OldSchool45B
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 6

    No professional shooters use it. That should tell you everything you need to know. In 22yrs of Military and civilian competitive shooting experience (including several deployments in a combat arms unit), I have never found a situation where this would even be a good tool in the toolbox.

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    • #3
      9mmepiphany
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 8075

      Originally posted by 4DSJW
      It sounds like it may be difficult to learn initially but that it may have some advantages.
      What possible advantages, to it, are you seeing?
      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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      • #4
        4DSJW
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2009
        • 786

        Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
        What possible advantages, to it, are you seeing?
        Since I have only read an article and not seen what they teach I can only go by the comment in the article that the author made about improved accuracy and less muzzle jump for faster second shots. If you disagree with the author's comments please feel free to share with the rest of the class... that's why I asked the question.

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        • #5
          kantstudien
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1795

          Read everything in "Tactical Ninja Times" with several large grains of salt.

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          • #6
            9mmepiphany
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2008
            • 8075

            Originally posted by 4DSJW
            ...about improved accuracy and less muzzle jump for faster second shots.
            I misunderstood. I thought you were comparing it to current stances and saw some possible advantages.

            The C.A.R. system makes a couple of assumptions that are factually incorrect.
            1. The different sides of the brain don't control the input from the eye on the same side...it does for the opposite eye... RE: Quell Sighting System
            2. It isn't faster or more fluid to move from a bladed stance, than from that share by both the original Weaver or the Modern Isosceles, as there is a directional bias

            As to the two points you've raised
            1. Given equal trigger management, there is no difference in accuracy between the different techniques
            2. Using the unequal force vectors of the arm position, combined with the canting of the gun, will slow shot-to-shot recovery rather than speed it up. It is actually regressing in it's recoil management philosophy.
            Last edited by 9mmepiphany; 01-11-2013, 6:49 PM.
            ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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            • #7
              MossbergMan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1255

              Is there any video on this technique?
              Larry Renner
              Plus (+) P Proficiency LLC
              NRA and CA. P.O.S.T certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Tactical Instructor.
              You never rise to the occassion, you only sink to your lowest level of training" Unknown.

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