This is a must read

[GoodLand]

make sure you read all the way down.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/twopihaform4.html

couldn't have said it better myself

[sfbay]

Was Goldwater the only contemporaneous quote? It was hard to read on my phone.

[Glockroo]

Don't forget to click on
"Options YOU NEED TO CHOOSE!" if possible

Great find GoodLand!

[dieselpower]

LOL... Its a nice read, but preaching to the choir.

[bigdawg86]

Wall of text... took a bit of effort to read, but it's all true. The drop down menu is the best.

[VegasND]

I took the time to read it and looked at the menu choices too. Good one!

[GrinderCB]

Was Goldwater the only contemporaneous quote? It was hard to read on my phone.

A lot of people forget that Gandhi was a 20th century figure (not counting his 1890's activity in So. Africa).

[GrinderCB]

Lots of good stuff in that tirade.

The quote from Andrew Wilkow reminded me of something. By way of my mom being a Glenn Beck disciple, I watched his show once last week where he had on a military psychologist that went on for some time about how the guns are not to blame and how we've ignored the real cause - the desensitization of our children from violence. This psychologist's history included working with our soldiers returning from war in order to train them against violence, in effect "re-sensitizing" them so that they wouldn't react violently in civilian life after having been conditioned to life in a war zone such as Iraq or Afghanistan.

Several points he made:
- Since the gangster era of the 1920's, gun ownership per capita has gone down, ie, there are far fewer guns in the hands of private citizens now than at any other time in American history.
- During that general decrease in private firearms ownership, the violence level in our society has actually increased. Imagine that, fewer guns, more violence.
- Violent crimes against gun owners have actually decreased over the past century and a half. Kind of lends credence to Jefferson's Commonplace Book quotation.
- The increase in violent crimes against unarmed people since WWII appears to correlate with the rise and increase in influence of electronic entertainment. Movies have become more realistic, TV shows more violent, video games much more prevalent. He noted that seeing violent acts in movies and TV shows and participating in those acts in video games results in desensitization against violence. Used to be if a movie or TV show was too graphic we would cringe and/or turn away.
- Not only are children being desensitized when viewing violence, video games aggravate that desensitization against participating by rewarding them with points and "level ups" and so on.
- The video game effect is also notable in that habitual players are even being desensitized against a fear of their own death. Video game going badly? Not to worry, just let your character get killed and start the level all over. I believe someone here mentioned that these nutjobs like Lanza, when faced with armed opposition, kill themselves or let the cops do them in. Indeed, it's a rare thing when one of these creeps gets taken alive.
- Take the cumulative effect of that desensitization over the past 40-50 years and the general disarming of Americans in that time and its no wonder we have someone snap once in awhile and go blasting innocent bystanders.

[GoodLand]

Lots of good stuff in that tirade.

The quote from Andrew Wilkow reminded me of something. By way of my mom being a Glenn Beck disciple, I watched his show once last week where he had on a military psychologist that went on for some time about how the guns are not to blame and how we've ignored the real cause - the desensitization of our children from violence. This psychologist's history included working with our soldiers returning from war in order to train them against violence, in effect "re-sensitizing" them so that they wouldn't react violently in civilian life after having been conditioned to life in a war zone such as Iraq or Afghanistan.

Several points he made:
- Since the gangster era of the 1920's, gun ownership per capita has gone down, ie, there are far fewer guns in the hands of private citizens now than at any other time in American history.
- During that general decrease in private firearms ownership, the violence level in our society has actually increased. Imagine that, fewer guns, more violence.
- Violent crimes against gun owners have actually decreased over the past century and a half. Kind of lends credence to Jefferson's Commonplace Book quotation.
- The increase in violent crimes against unarmed people since WWII appears to correlate with the rise and increase in influence of electronic entertainment. Movies have become more realistic, TV shows more violent, video games much more prevalent. He noted that seeing violent acts in movies and TV shows and participating in those acts in video games results in desensitization against violence. Used to be if a movie or TV show was too graphic we would cringe and/or turn away.
- Not only are children being desensitized when viewing violence, video games aggravate that desensitization against participating by rewarding them with points and "level ups" and so on.
- The video game effect is also notable in that habitual players are even being desensitized against a fear of their own death. Video game going badly? Not to worry, just let your character get killed and start the level all over. I believe someone here mentioned that these nutjobs like Lanza, when faced with armed opposition, kill themselves or let the cops do them in. Indeed, it's a rare thing when one of these creeps gets taken alive.
- Take the cumulative effect of that desensitization over the past 40-50 years and the general disarming of Americans in that time and its no wonder we have someone snap once in awhile and go blasting innocent bystanders.

Well said Grinder. Thank you for the information as well. I am surrounded
by people who appear intelligent, then quote cnn or some other misleading
propaganda source. I wear my NRA hat everyday like I have for years but now it seems I have to defend it daily as well. So the more verbal ammo
I have the better.