Please help with firearm transfers between relatives ...

[dandingo13]

So my aunt, uncle and grandpa all live in Nevada and I'm considering having them by me the pistol that I can't find anywhere here. Can anyone please provide me with a link to laws regarding transfers between an aunt or uncle or a grandparent or even constructive advice? I'd prefer my aunt, as she would definitely do it with no questions asked.

Is this even possible, as long as the pistol is CA legal and has 10 rounders?

[Librarian]

So my aunt, uncle and grandpa all live in Nevada and I'm considering having them by me the pistol that I can't find anywhere here. Can anyone please provide me with a link to laws regarding transfers between an aunt or uncle or a grandparent or even constructive advice? I'd prefer my aunt, as she would definitely do it with no questions asked.

Is this even possible, as long as the pistol is CA legal and has 10 rounders?

See the Calguns Foundation Wiki articles on

Intrafamilial transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...Family_Members

Interstate transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...rms_Interstate

If your grandparent does it, even off-Roster handguns work. But the handgun must be a gift - you cannot send them $ and ask them to buy the gun for you.

[dandingo13]

See the Calguns Foundation Wiki articles on

Intrafamilial transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...Family_Members

Interstate transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Tr...rms_Interstate

If your grandparent does it, even off-Roster handguns work. But the handgun must be a gift - you cannot send them $ and ask them to buy the gun for you.

Thanks so much for the links. Very helpful.

Regarding the bold, does that mean that I cannot ask them to buy any handgun, or just off-list?

[dieselpower]

Thanks so much for the links. Very helpful.

Regarding the bold, does that mean that I cannot ask them to buy any handgun, or just off-list?

If you ask them to buy you a gun and then send them money, it COULD be concidered a straw buy. A Strawbuy is a 2 party loophole defrauding the ATF rules on buying a firearm.

Now its 100% legal to buy a gun as a gift for another. Its 100% legal to use borrowed money to buy a gun.... BUT to do this as a way of getting a firearm not available due to firearm laws is fraud.

The ATF are not going to trouble themselves with you sending money to your grandparents to buy you a gun as a gift that you can buy here yourself as long as you are also registering it in your name in CA. The answer to why go through all the trouble when you can just buy one local would be availability...that's 100% legal in the eyes of the law...no matter what internet lawyers want to tell you. The fact a local shop has zero and a shop close to your in-laws have one is acceptable reason for the purchase as a gift.

ONCE AGAIN... to do this to bypass gun laws, such as the CA safe gun roster would be illegal.

[Librarian]

Thanks so much for the links. Very helpful.

Regarding the bold, does that mean that I cannot ask them to buy any handgun, or just off-list?

You can't give them money to buy you any gun, full stop.

Actual gifts are fine.

If availability is an issue, you can go out of state, buy any on-roster handgun or any non-'assault weapon' long gun from an FFL in that state, and have it sent to a CA FFL to complete the transfer. (Getting an out of state FFL to actually do that may be an adventure, but it would be legal.)

See also the wiki article -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Straw_Purchase

[dandingo13]

Thanks again for the advice. I used to buy guns out-of-state, when I had an awesome FFL, who would actually do OOS transfers. Unfortunately, my city nixed him and no one else in my area will do that anymore. A damn shame, I tell ya.

I'm going to drop this and make sure to follow the law. My dad knows what gun I'm looking for so maybe I'll get lucky and he'll pass the info on to gramps. If not, I can wait.