Non CA resident needs some guidelines on bringing in a firearm

[Yachtmaster]

A couple of times each year I visit a friend in CA for riding in the desert and shooting his guns. I also would like to compete in some USPSA SS events in CA during our winter offseason in my area.

Where is a good layman's discussion of what handguns and or rifles I can bring into CA for these visits?

All of my Sigs and Kimbers appear non CA compliant per sig and Kimber websites.

Any guidance or sources any of you can give?


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[Quiet]

You can not bring any prohibited weapons (assault weapons, DDs, MGs, SBRs, SBSs).

You can not bring any large capacity (11+ round) magazines.

Since you are just visting and will not be transferring firearms, the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale does not apply to you.
So, you can bring any handgun (that is not a prohibited weapon) to CA.

While transporting, the firearms must be unloaded and in a locked container.
Ammo can be in the same container, as long as it is not in the firearm's chamber/cylinder/magazine well.

[Librarian]

And the wiki has that info with links - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Mo..._with_firearms

[G-forceJunkie]

As mentioned, you can bring in anything own as long as it is not banned in california as an assualt weapon, etc. Biggest "gotchas" would be mags over 10 rounds and threaded pistol barrels if your uspsa guns have compensators. Otherwise transport unloaded in a locked case and your good. Rifles are trickier, read the links provided above, expecially if you want to bring and AR/AK or other detachable mag rifle in.

[dieselpower]

I was under the impression NFA firearms (full auto ) can be brought into CA for limited visits...just not AWs. I know it sounds stupid, but I think only AWs are prohibited from entering the State (For a visitor that is).

It is possible to have a full auto which negates the "semi-auto" requirement in AW law...therefore a NFA permitted firearm is NOT an AW.

[bhartin]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but don't bring in any of the popular .410-capable handguns (Judge and its ilk). Apparently CA considers them an SBS.

As said elsewhere, no magazines greater than 10 rounds, no threaded barrels on pistols. If you bring in a semiautomatic centerfire rifle then you really have to do your homework.

Be careful bringing in magnetic ammo. This includes a lot of the bimetal-plated surplus ammo, not just steel-core ammo. Many ranges prohibit it, and some areas of BLM or USFS land will restrict it as well due to fire risks.

I frequently travel back and forth to CA from TX and bring my XDM, a 10/22 or even an old 91/30. I just make sure I'm bringing in my 10-round magazines and I buy cheap new manufacture ammo for my 91/30 (Prvi Partisan, good stuff).

[dieselpower]

I do think there has been some wondering back and forth on the Judge thing... not sure where we are at this point in time.

[Quiet]

I was under the impression NFA firearms (full auto ) can be brought into CA for limited visits...just not AWs. I know it sounds stupid, but I think only AWs are prohibited from entering the State (For a visitor that is).

It is possible to have a full auto which negates the "semi-auto" requirement in AW law...therefore a NFA permitted firearm is NOT an AW.

In CA, possession of a Dangerous Weapon (DD, MG, SBR, SBS) by a non-Gov/Mil/LE agency requires a valid CA DOJ BOF Dangerous Weapons Permit.
This includes non-residents of CA.

Non-residents of CA have a different fee system for renewing a Dangerous Weapons Permit and are not subject to compliance inspection audits of the registered out-of-state storage locations. They still need to comply with all the registration requirements (weapon, locations, vehicles).

CA's assault weapons laws does not effect DDs, MGs, SBRs* & SBS*.
*Due to a recent posting on the CA DOJ BOF website (see quote below), I believe that SBRs & SBSs do not have to comply with CA's assault weapons laws.

May active duty military personnel with a DOJ Permit to Possess and/or Transport Assault Weapons, possess, import/export short-barreled rifles/shotguns into California?

No. Short-barreled rifles/shotguns are not assault weapons. A separate permit for such weapons based on different, and more stringent criteria is required before they can be lawfully brought into the state. The DOJ/FLPS-Dangerous Weapons Permit Unit also handles the issuance of permits for short barreled rifles/shotguns. You may obtain additional information regarding issuance of this permit by accessing the Bureau of Firearms Website, Dangerous Weapons Control Laws, Penal Code section 12095-12099 Short-barreled Rifles/Shotgun Permits.

[Quiet]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but don't bring in any of the popular .410-capable handguns (Judge and its ilk). Apparently CA considers them an SBS.

.410 handguns meet CA's definition of a SBS. [PC 17180(a)&(b)]

Therefore, do not bring a Title 1 .410 handgun into CA.

I do think there has been some wondering back and forth on the Judge thing... not sure where we are at this point in time.

Title 2 AOWs are exempt from CA's SBS laws. [PC 17710(a)]

Therefore, a .410 handgun made into a Title 2 AOW is legal in CA.

[Yachtmaster]

Thanks for the input; helped immensely. Looking forward to my next visit.


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[dieselpower]

In CA, possession of a Dangerous Weapon (DD, MG, SBR, SBS) by a non-Gov/Mil/LE agency requires a valid CA DOJ BOF Dangerous Weapons Permit.
This includes non-residents of CA.

Non-residents of CA have a different fee system for renewing a Dangerous Weapons Permit and are not subject to compliance inspection audits of the registered out-of-state storage locations. They still need to comply with all the registration requirements (weapon, locations, vehicles).

CA's assault weapons laws does not effect DDs, MGs, SBRs* & SBS*.
*Due to a recent posting on the CA DOJ BOF website (see quote below), I believe that SBRs & SBSs do not have to comply with CA's assault weapons laws.

So when Chris Costa, Travis Haley, LAV along with numerous other Instructors come into CA with NFA firearms...how do they do this?