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  • adrenalinemedic
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 217

    FBI/NICS [backlog and delay]

    Hearing from multiple independent sources in other states that, upon attempting to call in 4473s, they are being told the FBI is no longer processing any backgrounds.

    Anyone else experiencing this?


    Per this link (cannot verify accuracy) http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/26/g...#axzz2GJ3WRZF4

    "First of all, thank you so much for your continued patience with FBI NICS, our system and staff. The volume of incoming transactions (gun background checks) has and continues to be unprecedented.

    Here at the FBI, we continue to strategize on processing changes that will allow us to optimize our resources and finalize as many transactions as we can.

    Since Black Friday, November 23, 2012, the FBI NICS Section has experienced an equivalent of five Black Fridays (more than 155,000 transactions each day). The number of delayed transactions are significantly higher than ever in the history of the NICS. On average, about 3/4 of all transactions receive an immediate determination. The remaining are then transferred to the FBI, in an attempt to provide a final status, if possible.

    As of 3:15pm, EST today, (12/26/2012) it has become necessary for the NICS Section to have our staff focus on the transactions in the delay queue so that we have an improved chance of reviewing those transactions before the expiration of the third business day. Therefore, you may notice a small change in how some of your transactions are handled as those requiring further review will not immediately be transferred on to the FBI NICS Section. Rather they will automatically be placed in delay and will be worked in the order received. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you but hope that you understand why this temporary change is being implemented.

    We are committed to resolving all transactions as quickly as we possibly can and appreciate your continued patience and support. Thank you.

    One request please, when conducting your NICS Background Checks, please do not duplicate the transaction by calling the NICS Contracted Call Centers (NCCC) multiple times or calling the NCCC and then doing an E-Check transaction on the same transaction.

    This can be considered misuse of the NICS and only adds to the workload which in turn slows down the final statuses from the NICS Section to you.

    Kim Brown
    NICS Section FFL Liaison Specialist"



    According to Federal Law (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nic...s/a-nics-delay) if a NICS check doesnt come back either way, the firearm can be released. State law is YMMV, and I admit I don't know how this works in CA.

    Just something interesting, as the link is dated yesterday, no one was noticing any issues until today, and the issues seem different.
    Last edited by adrenalinemedic; 12-27-2012, 6:55 PM.
  • #2
    a1c
    CGSSA Coordinator
    • Oct 2009
    • 9098

    Your thread title is deceiving and inaccurate.
    WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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    • #3
      adrenalinemedic
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 217

      Explain, as it is a question seeking clarificaiton, rather than a statement of fact.

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      • #4
        a1c
        CGSSA Coordinator
        • Oct 2009
        • 9098

        They just have a backlog and are working on clearing it, apparently.
        WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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        • #5
          a1c
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • Oct 2009
          • 9098

          They just have a backlog and are working on clearing it, apparently.
          WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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          • #6
            dustoff31
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 8209

            I'm not sure what all that means, but I can tell you that while visiting a LGS this morning here in AZ, they made three NICS calls during the time I was there and all were completed within a minute or two.
            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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            • #7
              socal2310
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 808

              Originally posted by adrenalinemedic
              Explain, as it is a question seeking clarificaiton, rather than a statement of fact.
              Second Amendment foes are losing badly. They see the Newtown Massacre (thanks to it's juxtaposition with our most beloved holiday) as their last best chance to get some sort of anti-gun legislation passed. Gun owners and those who wish to be gun owners agree and are busy breaking all kinds of purchase records.

              As a consequence, those responsible for doing background checks are unable to keep up with the demand for their services.

              Ryan

              EDIT - someone else got to it before me.
              Bless, O Lord, this creature beer, which thou hast deigned to produce from the fat of grain: that it may be a salutary remedy to the human race, and grant through the invocation of thy holy name; that, whoever shall drink it, may gain health in body and peace in soul. Through Christ our Lord. Amen

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              • #8
                SilverTauron
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2012
                • 5699

                You've got bigger problems then NICS right now. How about that little problem of California's DOJ digging up arrests from the Nixon Administration and using them to obstruct gun purchases?
                The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                • #9
                  GWbiker
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 733

                  What you California folks need is "Shall Issue" and state wide CCW permit to allow a speedy gun sale........ like we have in Arizona.

                  Oh wait.....
                  "If 5% of Ducks could shoot back, would you go Duck hunting?"

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                  • #10
                    Sakiri
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1395

                    Originally posted by SilverTauron
                    You've got bigger problems then NICS right now. How about that little problem of California's DOJ digging up arrests from the Nixon Administration and using them to obstruct gun purchases?
                    Wait, what?

                    Lol.. Serious?

                    They'll have a hard time with me then... I wasn't even alive during the Nixon administration... >.>
                    On the Second Amendment:
                    "'Keep' means they're mine, you can't have them. 'Bear' means I've got some on me, and they're loaded."

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                    • #11
                      tcrpe
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 10269

                      Originally posted by socal2310
                      Gun owners and those who wish to be gun owners agree and are busy breaking all kinds of purchase records.

                      As a consequence, those responsible for doing background checks are unable to keep up with the demand for their services.
                      Actually, as evidenced by another thread here, they are doing quite well at denying purchases. The law be damned.
                      Originally posted by SilverTauron
                      Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
                      Originally posted by loose_electron
                      PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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                      • #12
                        SilverTauron
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 5699

                        Originally posted by Sakiri
                        Wait, what?

                        Lol.. Serious?

                        They'll have a hard time with me then... I wasn't even alive during the Nixon administration... >.>
                        If I recall the thread correctly, there was a post by a guy who got obstructed for an arrest he wasn't alive to experience.

                        A member here got "delayed" due to an unresolved arrest for assault in the late 70's. The DOJ cleared it up fast when he furnished proof his birthdate was in the 1980s.
                        The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                        The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                        -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                        The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                        • #13
                          dwtt
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7470

                          In VA, the background check is done by the state police, and they don't have a delay. So, to answer your question in the OP, no, there's no delay. In CA, the background check is done by the DOJ.

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                          • #14
                            Eljay
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4985

                            One thing you guys may not be aware of - in a normal state if you're in DELAY for 72 hours the FFL can just give you the gun. So that's why they're focusing on the DELAY people who are near three days old because otherwise they can't catch prohibited people who might be trying to take advantage.

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                            • #15
                              Eljay
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4985

                              (sigh)

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