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First a little backstory before I ask my questions, I tried searching but I don't think this specifically has been asked...If you don't wanna read the back story just skip to the bottom where I ask my questions...
My apartment complex has a contracted security patrol that is never around, and when they are, they just drive in one gate and drive through to the other gate and leave. The max I've seen them is twice in the same night.
We also have security cameras in some of the common areas like the gym and the basketball court, but none that actually monitor the grounds or the entrances. There are no gates that close or open, but we do have a big fence around the perimeter but they're all open at each driveway so cars can come in and out as they please. Oh and we have assigned parking with limited open space parking for anyone else to park as they please.
Now, in my 2+ years living here, my friends house has been broken into and robbed while he wasn't there. They stole all his electronics and his shotgun with ammo. A few cars have been broken into and stolen from or stolen altogether. I would say it's normal type of stuff that happens in any area minus the robbery.
Last July, someone stole my USMC flag hanging from my patio and it made me realize that I have nothing to protect myself if something worse were to happen. So that's when I decided to buy my first firearm. Now fast forward to this past week, an elderly lady was held up at gunpoint and robbed about 500 feet from me.
I don't have a CCW yet, my appointment is in February, and there is nothing I could have done to prevent it since I didn't know it was happening until it was over. But I asked the police officer about it later and he confirmed that I couldn't of legally been carrying my gun with me outside of my apartment anyways withou a CCW or other legal reason. I was outside working on my truck when it went down and I remember seeing the suspect approach her area, then leave quickly in a car that was waiting for him. If I had known what was going down I could have attempted to get the license plate number of the car at the very least.
Now, onto my questions...
1) Because the entire complex is considered private property owned by someone or a corporation, if I get written permission from them or the property manager to concealed carry while I am waiting for my CCW to come through can I do it?
2) Can another citizen who is legally able to purchase and own a firearm in the US and California ask them for the same permission without having a CCW or qualifying for one?
3) Should I even ask them this?
I basically just want to be able to carry my handgun with me when I am out and about walking around my complex like picking up my mail, walking the dog, taking out the trash, playing at the pool, or just going on a walk with my daughter and wife. I know I'm really close to getting my CCW and I can be patient and wait it out but I would certainly feel a lot more safe in my neck of the woods if I knew I had a better chance to protect myself.
Thank you in advance for your answers, any references to the actual law that this could apply to would be greatly beneficial in case they ask me for more details that show them it's legal.
My apartment complex has a contracted security patrol that is never around, and when they are, they just drive in one gate and drive through to the other gate and leave. The max I've seen them is twice in the same night.
We also have security cameras in some of the common areas like the gym and the basketball court, but none that actually monitor the grounds or the entrances. There are no gates that close or open, but we do have a big fence around the perimeter but they're all open at each driveway so cars can come in and out as they please. Oh and we have assigned parking with limited open space parking for anyone else to park as they please.
Now, in my 2+ years living here, my friends house has been broken into and robbed while he wasn't there. They stole all his electronics and his shotgun with ammo. A few cars have been broken into and stolen from or stolen altogether. I would say it's normal type of stuff that happens in any area minus the robbery.
Last July, someone stole my USMC flag hanging from my patio and it made me realize that I have nothing to protect myself if something worse were to happen. So that's when I decided to buy my first firearm. Now fast forward to this past week, an elderly lady was held up at gunpoint and robbed about 500 feet from me.
I don't have a CCW yet, my appointment is in February, and there is nothing I could have done to prevent it since I didn't know it was happening until it was over. But I asked the police officer about it later and he confirmed that I couldn't of legally been carrying my gun with me outside of my apartment anyways withou a CCW or other legal reason. I was outside working on my truck when it went down and I remember seeing the suspect approach her area, then leave quickly in a car that was waiting for him. If I had known what was going down I could have attempted to get the license plate number of the car at the very least.
Now, onto my questions...
1) Because the entire complex is considered private property owned by someone or a corporation, if I get written permission from them or the property manager to concealed carry while I am waiting for my CCW to come through can I do it?
2) Can another citizen who is legally able to purchase and own a firearm in the US and California ask them for the same permission without having a CCW or qualifying for one?
3) Should I even ask them this?
I basically just want to be able to carry my handgun with me when I am out and about walking around my complex like picking up my mail, walking the dog, taking out the trash, playing at the pool, or just going on a walk with my daughter and wife. I know I'm really close to getting my CCW and I can be patient and wait it out but I would certainly feel a lot more safe in my neck of the woods if I knew I had a better chance to protect myself.
Thank you in advance for your answers, any references to the actual law that this could apply to would be greatly beneficial in case they ask me for more details that show them it's legal.
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