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  • joepamjohn
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2709

    Magazine rebuild kit questions

    I see lots of posts relating to magazine"rebuild kits", many times of hi-cap type (10+ rounds) magazines that are not normally allowed in Ca. unless you had them from years back prior to the new laws. So am I to understand correctly that a hi-cap magazine can be offered for legal sale as a "parts kit" by just completely dissasembling it first? Also, do rimfire magazines apply to the same rules?

    I want to be sure, especially with the flurry of recent events where hi-cap magazines are again in the news headlines.
    Last edited by joepamjohn; 12-23-2012, 12:27 AM.
    "You can't handle the truth"
  • #2
    vintagearms
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2009
    • 6841

    Yes to both.

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    • #3
      medicdude
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1034

      Remember the part of the law that will get you is "assembling a standard capacity magazine." So if you use those parts to put together a new one instead of rebuilding one you legally owned before the ban, you're breaking the law.

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      • #4
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12719

        At this moment in time I think that these three items are a hedge against inflation. (better than gold or silver)

        1. Lowers

        2. Rebuild kits

        3. Ammo

        Just my opinion.
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        • #5
          The Gleam
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 12156

          Originally posted by joepamjohn
          ISo am I to understand correctly that a hi-cap magazine can be offered for legal sale as a "parts kit" by just completely disassembling it first? Also, do rimfire magazines apply to the same rules?
          1. A high-capacity magazine is NOT being offered for sale.
          2. A disassembled high-capacity magazine is NOT being offered for sale. You might call it that, but it is just a group of individual parts that can not be "assembled" into a high-capacity magazine legally, thus it is not disassembled.
          3. Some individual parts that can fix a high-capacity magazine that you previously owned prior to 1/1/2000, is being offered for sale.
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          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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          • #6
            edwardm
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1939

            Keep eyes on AB 48. This is aiming to also ban important of rebuild kits, among other things.

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            • #7
              Dantedamean
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 2293

              Originally posted by edwardm
              Keep eyes on AB 48. This is aiming to also ban important of rebuild kits, among other things.

              http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill...ntroduced.html
              Of course it is, it's for the children after all.

              -_-'

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              • #8
                dieselpower
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 11471

                Current law doesnt view magazine parts as a working magazine.... therefore you can sell all the parts individually even at the same time and you are not selling a magazine.

                What the person buying does with the magazine parts is not your concern, unless they tell you they are going to break the law and assemble (manufacture) a Large Capacity Magazine with the parts. If you sell them the parts AFTER they tell you this you COULD BE charged with a crime.

                This is why many LGS who sell rebuild kits have the buyer sign a form stating they;
                1) Understand the kit can not be assembled as is and doing so is an illegal act subject to criminal prosecution, and
                2) They have no intentions to commit that crime.
                3) The kit MUST BE used to repair a legally owned Large Capacity Magazine or to manufacture a legal 10rd magazine.

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                • #9
                  uhlan1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 6217

                  I wonder if Glock is warehousing tons of them like they did prior to 1994. Drove up prices and they made a killing. Not looking for much help from the manufacturers on all this. Just read a history of Glock. Opened my eyes to them and S&W.
                  Sorry, my brain is in "random wandering"mode.
                  "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                  • #10
                    uhlan1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 6217

                    I wonder if Glock is warehousing tons of them like they did prior to 1994. Drove up prices and they made a killing. Not looking for much help from the manufacturers on all this. Just read a history of Glock. Opened my eyes to them and S&W.
                    Sorry, my brain is in "random wandering"mode.
                    "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                    • #11
                      joepamjohn
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2709

                      In my case I have a number of 92F and Hi Power mags from back in the day when you actually could have them. How do I prove that I can own them since there are no dates or any other markings that would indicate a date of MFG?. I am affraid to even take them to the range or out to publc areas where you actually can shoot.

                      Can I put a little block of wood under the follower to limit the capacity?
                      "You can't handle the truth"

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                      • #12
                        Baconator
                        Bacon makes it better
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 9547

                        Originally posted by joepamjohn
                        In my case I have a number of 92F and Hi Power mags from back in the day when you actually could have them. How do I prove that I can own them since there are no dates or any other markings that would indicate a date of MFG?. I am affraid to even take them to the range or out to publc areas where you actually can shoot.

                        Can I put a little block of wood under the follower to limit the capacity?
                        The burden of proof is not on you to prove that you owned them prior to institution of the ban, it is on the prosecution. No one is going to care unless you are making a scene and even then there really isn't anything you are doing wrong as possession is not a crime. Don't limit what you don't have to.

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                        • #13
                          joetotoroto
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 102

                          Originally posted by joepamjohn
                          In my case I have a number of 92F and Hi Power mags from back in the day when you actually could have them. How do I prove that I can own them since there are no dates or any other markings that would indicate a date of MFG?. I am affraid to even take them to the range or out to publc areas where you actually can shoot.

                          Can I put a little block of wood under the follower to limit the capacity?
                          Same Here, I have a few Hi Cap. Mags for the first 92F I bought in 89.

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                          • #14
                            CessnaDriver
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 10625

                            Originally posted by joepamjohn
                            In my case I have a number of 92F and Hi Power mags from back in the day when you actually could have them. How do I prove that I can own them since there are no dates or any other markings that would indicate a date of MFG?. I am affraid to even take them to the range or out to publc areas where you actually can shoot.

                            Can I put a little block of wood under the follower to limit the capacity?

                            Do NOT be afraid. You own them legally, you are not violating any law. You are not required to have any proof.
                            Possession is not illegal. You using them is not illegal. And if someone was stupid enough to think they are, they WILL lose in court.


                            And you do not have to have an explaination either to provide to anyone inquiring. Don't go on some long winded
                            story about back in the day. They are legally possessed. That's it. Rebuilt from new parts or not.
                            Last edited by CessnaDriver; 12-23-2012, 12:55 PM.


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